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M.O.R.E. Inc TJ Rohleder Mail Order Scam-preyed on my 91 year old Grandmother for at least 25K, Internet
3rd of Feb, 2011 by
M.O.R.E. Inc. is a company based in Goessel, KS that promises large monthly incomes to people who purchase their systems that are used on the internet and through direct mail. They claim that people make $10,000 in their first week without knowing anything about how to make it work. Many of their programs are touted as being self generating and requiring little or no effort on the part of the "investor." They routinely claim that people can expect to make $20,000-$100,000 per month. Information obtained through the BBB , which rates them an F, and online search shows that the dominant complaint centers around a lack of return on investment and then a refusal to refund money when the programs don't work.

In our experience it is worse. Our mother who will be 91 in March was contacted for years through the mail regarding the "products" offered by M.O.R.E. She ignored them until about 2 years ago when she began to fall for the "get rich quick and easy " scam and started to buy some of their programs. We were skeptical, and tried to talk her out of it, but we were glad that Mom wanted to stay active, and we did not want to steal her dream. We thought it would not amount to much and would not last very long. Mom pursued it secretly because she knew the 3 children did not approve. Then in August of 2010, she announced to us that she would be attending a seminar about becoming a millionaire in Dallas. She wanted us to attend and she was going to pay our way into the program so we could also become rich. The seminar cost about $2,000.

Two of us went to hear what they had to say. There was a slate of several hucksters touting internet schemes of various types. In addition, they held individual meetings with attendees to sell additional programs. At every turn there were opportunities to buy (costing thousands of dollars) different programs that would make you a lot of money. We asked the lady who was our Mom's account person if she thought the programs were suitable for Mom and she said "NO." They had the appearance of promoting and selling things online, but required fairly massive mailings and some knowledge of computers. Our Mom cannot even turn on a computer, doesn't know the price of a stamp, doesn't hear well, can barely move around her house, and like a lot of people her age, sleeps 12 hours per night, and another 2 or 3 during the day. This is not a criticism of her.

She has earned her right to do whatever she wants. We're glad she is still with us. It simply makes no sense that she is a prospect for this kind of program, even if it did work. We discussed with the lady from M.O.R.E. that they would not sell her anything else, and in fact, that they wouldredirect some of her invested money from direct mail to online website advertising that would be handled totally by them and if things were purchased she would receive the proceeds without further effort. When the money was exhausted, we could evaluate how much she paid, how much she made, and then decide whether or not to continue. That was a good compromise because wespared Mom's feelings, cut off further investment, and could justify ending it several months down the road when it did not work out.

Today the outcome is worse than we thought. Mom has invested as much as $25,000 largely through direct drafts on her bank account. they wait until the first of the month when she receives her Social security and retirement checks via direct deposit and then drain out whatever they can. They created such a drain that her last bank closed her account because they viewed it as fraudulent and did not want to be involved. A kind bank employee called M.O.R.E. and tried to get them to stop. They said they had "verbal" approval from Mom. This same lady tried to convince Mom to stop dealing with them, but she refused. They have convinced her that they will help her become rich and they are like family to her. The hook is in deep, and she is not alone. The attendees at the seminar were a collection of mostly older people who seemed mesmerized by the speakers, but they gave no appearance of being capable of understanding or implementing anything that was presented. The people at M.O.R.E. have no conscience at all. Their programs do not work. They make money by preying upon the emotions of people, especially the elderly that are not capable of defending themselves.
Comments
4397 days ago by Jcw
Amen, I agree. TJ Rohleder is all hype and empty promises.
His favorite quote: "If I Can Make A Million", so can you.
I will do everything for you. It will cost you up to a few thousand
plus a monthly and I will do everything for you. I can't gurantee
that you will make any money, but I will take your money to try.

Currently TJ Rohleder is promoting some MLM Cell Phone Company,
using the same formula, "I Will Do Everything For You" that includes
advertising, management, followup, but I can't gurantee that you will
make any money. However, my personal goal is to be earning $500, 000
a month. I gurantee TJ will accomplish that goal using other peoples
money who will be in his downline. You figure it out who is going to
be making money. Note: There are claims that he uses his own money
to do followups with prospects that don't come onboard ASAP.

I know what I am talking about, so I consider myself an expert of what
to expect with results with this "I Will Do Everything For You". From a
previous promo, I used the service for one year. Paid the expensive
set-up fee plus the monthly. During that one year, received a few small
checks that I could cash at the bus stop. Not weekly checks like they
claimed, because if I don't make money, the company doesn't make
money and the company will work even harder to make you money.
Disappointing results to prove to myself that this company is all about
making millions for themselves. Their claims, they have earned $140, 000, 000
since 1988. Surprises me with a F rating from the BBB. I guess they
stay within the legal line of not being shut down by the FTC. Be careful
if you receive any promo's from M.O.R.E promoting their Cell Phone Service.
4334 days ago by Cweaver
Thanks for taking the time to post this. I only hope people pay attention. This mailing managed to show up at my parents address, they are seniors as well.

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