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Paradise Canyon Vacations - Winnipeg- $10,000 Scam -A-D
16th of May, 2012 by sam1antha_fox40
Paradise Canyon Vacations - Winnipeg- $10,000 Scam -A-D

1021 Court Ave., Winnipeg, Manitoba

NOEL CELL NUMBER 204-229-6527
OFFICE NUMBER 204-453-8142

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- $10,000 for a travel membership!!!!!!!!!

This Travel Company which claims is not a timeshare, but is charging
$10,000 to $15,000 for membership privileges for reduced travel
services which you can find just as cheap or cheaper if you
shop around. Cost is $3,500 down not refundable and $40 t0 $60
per month for 20 years. There was one call a tele marketer was
saying that a lady refused to sign the contract, don't we all just
love to sign 20 year contracts and another time Noel the manager
was explaining to a tele marketer that Paradise Canyon Vacation
is like a bank and will finance the $10,000 to $15,000 membership
fee like a bank loan buying a car. You are getting nothing but a
membership that is all, you still have to pay for any travel expenses.
$3,500 you could have gone on your vacation, instead it would cost
you $7,000 to go on that same vacation with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
if you decide to cancel after paying out $3,500, if not the same
vacation would cost you $13,500, shopping around is still free.

This is a quote from an actual Paradise Canyon Vacation member,
from a reputable travel site,
if you go to that link, and clik rainman75, you can send him an
email asking more information.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g154922-i80-k4011496-Paradise_
Canyon_Vacations-British_Columbia.html

7. Rainman75
Fort...
posts: 1

Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations
31 March 2011, 1:24
I got suckered and yes it is a scam! Paradise Canyon Vacations "deals"
are no better than anywhere else and in some cases we found Paradise
Canyon Vacation trips to be more expensive then our friends who would
just book through a travel agent.
At the Paradise Canyon Vacation SCAM presentation they constantly tell
you how you can get great rates (like $200/wk) at great places all over
the world without blackout dates. Using this company I've never paid
less than $1300/wk!! The best times to ravel are ALWAYS BLACKED OUT
at Paradise Canyon Vacations!
I travel a lot and I save VERY little using Paradise Canyon Vacations
kerisosh's plug is a direct quote from the sales pitch!
It's all bulls**t and it's bad for you!!

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$200 a week employee vs $10,000 membership

Paradise Canyon Vacation only pays it's tele marketers $200
per week, $10 an hour for 20 hours, from Sunday to Thursday
6pm to 10pm. Yet a travel membership is $10,000 to $15,000.
Noel fires employees every week, "cleaning house" as he calls
it. A few unhappy employees go online and Paradise Canyon
Vacation loses $10,000 for every person reading the posts.
An employees only makes $9,600 less than the $10,000
membership fee.
I have seen callers tell the tele marketers that they read
the bad reviews of people being scammed on trip advisor.
that they want nothing to do with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
Paradise Canyon vacation doesn't realize all the scam sites
available for unhappy screwed over employees, and of course
travel members. If your an ex employee or an unhappy member
or someone who attened the presentation and didn't receive
your free gifts,stand up and post your concern and help
others to not get screwed over also. The best place to post
your complaint would be tripadvisor.ca, ripoff.com ,
scaminformer.com , complaintsboard.com, and trailcanada.com,
and also exposeascam.com . Paradise Canyon Vacation can't
delete your posts on these sites, other sites posts
can be deleted so dont waste your time.

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- $9700 and go up to $15k

jericho
Senior Member

Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
Posts: 1,738

... so my wife got a call last week, out of the blue, and to cut
a long story short, we found ourselves attending some kind of
meeting/presentation today at the local golf club.

Paradise Canyon Vacations are apparently headquartered about
Lethbridge (AB) and made it 100% clear they're not a time share
and there was nothing to buy from them.... today.

It's essentially a "club"- you pay them x thousand dollars to
join the club, and then you receive vacations/flights/cruises
etc at "net" prices. Some of the examples they gave were
extremely impressive.
It seems they're registered travel agents, so have access to
"net" prices through their sister companies/affiliates- that
include huge holiday condo companies, cruise companies, etc etc.

To be honest, I'm extremely skeptical of this kind of stuff,
and I only went because they promised a $1000 travel cheque.
The presentation was only an hour, so I thought it worth the
risk. However, the sales guy has me very interested...

The club "prices" start at around $9700 and go up to $15k or
so... but you can pay monthly over 20 years and cancel
whenever you want. The basic package, that I'm interested in,
would be around $40 a month.
I've booked an appointment with him to discuss in more detail,
but has anyone every had any experience with this company or
similar ones. For $40 a month, I'm inclined to try it for a
year and see what it's like. We have 2 holidays in mind for
this year and if we can save some money, it'll be worthwhile...

Anyone have any experience with this kind of deal/operation?
My subconscious is screaming it's some kind of scam and it
sounds too good to be true, but at the same time, I'm intrigued....

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- asking for $9-15K.

Cookie
Totally Choco Chip

I had a quick look online and find it strange that they deny being
timeshare when asking for $9-15K. They are also members of
www.rci.com which is a timeshare exchange company.

I have nothing against timeshare, in fact we have owned one in Orlando
for 8 years - we hold title deeds and own it until we decide to sell it.
We enjoy ours and have vacationed at our home resort a few times and
also used it to exchange through RCI to other resorts in Scotland,
Ontario, Massechusettes and are heading to Maine this summer.

I would question paying out between $9-15k fees and not own anything
other than a membership

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- 1 person can't make a diffrence

One person can't make a difference but together we can make people
more aware with knowledge and knowing is the first part of winning
any battle, we have compiled a list of informative blogs from people
who have been called, tele marketers and members who have been
scammed $10,000 to $15,000. Paradise Canyon Vacation is fighting back
by sending out their hitmen with prison tattoos namely Dave, Noel's
right hand man who sometimes uses his left to take down our blogs,
and Gaga aka Sega to slander mean malicious lies about employees
so please help us and spread the word tell everyone you know to
please come read our posts, there are over 100 different blogs so
you won't be bored and for those of you who are paying Paradise
Canyon Vacation monthly We strongly urge you to stop all payments
and quit while your ahead. $10,000 is a beautiful thing to waste
on an rci membership and yes Paradise Canyon works with points,
Noel the manager told us in the call center that members get
points to stay 2 weeks at a time share location and also Noel
said that Paradise Canyon finances the $10,000 to $15,000 like a
bank lending out a car loan. So bacically you have nothing and
after you give Paradise Canyon Vacation $10,000 to $15,000 you
still havew to pay for your trip. It's time to wake up and
smell the coffee.

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- 2 quotes come to mind

G77

Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Windsor, ON
Posts: 3,345

If it's too good to be true......

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- Phewwwww.....!!!

werlenator
Fort St...
posts: 106
13 June 2011, 22:15

Phewwwww.....!!! I just had them call me and I was
going to go to the meeting but some little voice in
my head said "if it's too good to be true
then...... you all know the rest!

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- 2hr movie $10 - 1 hr presentation $10,000

Paradise canyon Vacation will call and invite you to a free 60 minute presentation and
tell you how they are not calling to sell you anything, is strictly information only,
you cannot buy nothing at the presentation. The truth is they are calling to sell you
a $10,000 to $15,000 membership, they won't sell it to you at the presentation, and
they will come to your home and try to scam you for $10,000.
Now if you went to a 2 hour movie, it will only cost you $10 admission plus popcorn
and soft drinks, snacks etc. But you won't have no salesman coming to your home after
the movie. By the way the membership is $3,500 down not refundable and $40 to $60 a
month for the next 20 years. Just imagine going to a movie theatre and walking out
having to pay $60 a month for the next 20 years, this is what happens if you go to
a 1 hour Paradise canyon Vacation presentation. Choice is yours 2 hour movie $10,
1 hour travel expo presentation $10,000. Where would you put your money?

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- 5,000 members at $40 bucks per months

Vanese - 06-15-2009 18:18
We were recently approached by a company called Paradise Canyo
Vacations based out of Lethbridge, Alberta. I am in the process of
checking with their Better Business Bureau and Chamber of Commerce - to
determine the legitimacy of this entity. It does sound too good to be
true which is why my spidey sense kicked in. It is a self describe
ultimate in internet discount vacation travel partnered with RCI
dialanexhange, I.C.E. Private Resort and Cruise Club and Enjoy Access.

My understanding, although we are meeting with them again, is that you
pay a monthly fee - basic membership for instance is around 10 gran
for say 20 years, paid monthly. And you can quit at any time without
signficant up front cost. I guess if they have 5 thousand members at 4
bucks a month its two hundred thousand dollars a month in revenue but
it still seems fishy. So I was wondering if anyone else had ever hear
of them or could validate the worthiness of the company

--
Vanese

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- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10,000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10,000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10,000
Fifty ways to lose $10,000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10,000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10,000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10,000
Fifty ways to lose $10,000

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- 50 Ways to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3,500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10,000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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- A few good men

All it takes is a few people to let others know about the
corruption, lies and greed of big powerful money hungry
corporations. Using underpaid tele marketers to try and
rob the innocent of thousands of dollars with promises
of free gifts and vacations. Paradise Canyon Vacation for
years has been under paying employees with minimum wages
and 1/4% commission bonus and on top of that using scare
tactics like calling the police to protect it's sales if
employees try to let other people online know of the scam.
They don't want callers to know that the membership is
$10,000 to $15,000 till the salesman arrives at their home.
These posts were written by jilted employees and people who were
scammed by paradise canyon vacation to help and warn others
not to fall in the same misfortune.

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- Abby Don't cry for Paradise Canyon Vacation

Abby actually worked for the Paradise canyon Vacation call center a week
the month of October 2011 and yes her real name is Abby, Winnipeg's
Minor Volleyball Association right hand girl who sometimes uses her
left from what we hear she got along very well with Dave, Noel's
right hand man who uses uses his left, was it love at first sight a
right hand man and right hand girl who sometimes both use their left.
She was practically crying running tears like a faucet with her little
red beatty watery eyes telling us how the internet posts is making people
aware of Paradise canyon Vacation and effecting its sales, and that Dave
her right hand man who sometimes uses his left and who by the way is also
Noel's right hand man who also uses his left was going to go to ex employees
homes to tell them to stop posting the inside scoop on Paradise Canyon
Vacation. It's nice to know that Paradise Canyon Vacation is not happy with
just firing employees , now they send Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left with his home made priosn tattoos to scare and bully employees at
their home. So nice to see Abby not worried about the innocent people being scammed
$10,000 and told the presentation is free till the salesman arrives at their home
with a lenghty contract asking $10,000 to $15,000 with $3,500 down not refundable
and $40 to $60 for the next 20 years, but instead Abby is crying for the crooked
management and its losing sales. Abby also did warn us that Dave Noel's right hand man
who sometimes uses his left told her that Paradise canyon Vacation might be changing
their name soon due to public awareness of their scam .If Abby the the Winnipeg Minor
Volleyball Association right hand girl who sometimes uses her left supports this crooked
time share company,I would stay away from the Minor Volleyball Association and
Paradise Canyon Vacation.

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- Abducted by a toilet

97 year old Woman freed after being trapped on lavatory for a week

A Winnipeg tele marketer woman from Paradise canyon Vacation call center
has been rescued after she fell into the lavatory and was trapped there
for a week.
The Winnipeg woman employee at the Winnipeg Paradise Canyon vacation call
center, who has not been named, was only found by the emergency services
after a co worker heard her cries for help.
When an ambulance arrived paramedics found her stuck on the lavatory
and unable to get out. She was dehydrated but otherwise unharmed,
despite having spent seven days wedged in the same position.
Reports said the woman, aged 97, was found in the evening on Sunday and had
become stuck the previous Sunday evening.
Eventually she was freed when emergency services broke into the call center
office through a back door and found her in the woman’s bathroom.
"The lady was maneuvered to one side to free her. The door swings inwards
and she had her feet wedged on either side of the lavatory," a Department
of Community Services spokesman said.
"She was very dehydrated but she was conscious."
A co worker said the woman told him she had been there since 6pm on Sunday.
"To me that meant that evening but she meant last Sunday.
“The co worker had not become concerned earlier because
it was normal to not see the woman or any other tele marketers
taking any calls during the week, he said.
"I'd never even seen her dialing any calls," he said "but we still
got paid just the same"

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- Allgallbladerss eat gaga's aka Sega’a shit

Now that Paradise Canyon Vacation is on line on the internet scam sites.
Employees like Allbladerss and gaga aka Sega come out of the wood word
to protect their jobs, Especially Gaga aka Sega trying to slander
innocent workers whom she accuses of going on line telling the truth,
Noel fired a whole bunch of people like he does every other week,
"cleaning house" as he says, Noel has pissed off many if not hundreds
of ex employees including his own Filipno people. Allgallbalderss and
gaga aka Sega you can both go and eat the shit out of Paradise Canyon
toilets call centre, because your both a piece of shit like the rest
of them, gaga is the biggest turd of them all slandering other employees
but gaga aka Sega didn’t mention that Noel the manager said it was ok for
employees to sell stolen xbox, playstaion games as long as employees got
good prices, funny how gaga aka Sega left that part out .
Gaga aka Sega you bought that stolen brand new laptop with the box and all
for $100 from that fat guy who works out at the gym everyday for $100, who
are you to call eople losers and mental when you yourself is buying stolen
laptops at work .Gaga aka Sega you enjoy trying to scam innocent people out
of $10000 dollars, next time you two are on the phone, just tell the truth
and tell the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $40 to $60 a month
for 20 years oh and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign,
Allgallbladerss when you can do this, then you can tell people to eat your
shit, till then you and Gaga aka Sega keep licking the urinals at Paradise
Canyon Vacation call centre. Sega you came to work for 3 months along with
your skinny anorexic sister who hasn’t eaten in months, dressed up like a
fat over weight model walking down or should we say a 747 crashing down
runway, but to be a model Gaga aka Sega you need to lose 100 pounds off
your big fat ass.

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- Be Afraid Be Very Afraid

Paradise Canyon Vacations will sound so nice and
pleasing when they call you during supper and apologize
and swear they are not calling to sell you anything,
its strictly information only, you cant buy nothing
at the presentation and of course leave your money at
home, they will ask you to bring your wife or travel
partner, this way you can't walk away so easily from
the $10,000 to $15,000 membership, which is $3,500
down not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for the
next 20 years, they will try to offer you gifts 2
free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, which nobody
ever receives, Paradise Canyon Vacations hates people
who come for the gifts, the owners call them "roaches",
then why do they offer the gifts and call the people
roaches for attending, there is also the $1,000 travel
voucher, of course you have to spend $10,000 to $15,000
for the membership, membership is all you get, you still
have to pay for the trips, which will cost the same or
more if you shop around. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation scam you.

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- Boots To Asses

Come check out the Rocks new site Paradisescam.angelfire.com
which the Rock put together for the million and millions of
his fans who were scammed millions and millions of dollars

Finally the rock has come back to Leftbridge, Alberta
to team up with my friend Tiger Woods to play a round
of golf.

The rock has been getting millions and millions of Tweets on
his Twitter these past few days about these two jabronees who
don't yet know their role calling themselves cheech and chong
or Noel and his monkey ass assitant Dave , Noel's right hand
man who sometimes uses his left. The Rock is not going to
question why Noel's monkey ass assistant Dave uses his left for,
and it don't matter to he Rock what that jabronee Dave uses his
left hand for.

All that matters is that these two jabronees have been ripping off
miilions and millions of the Rocks fans with their phoney
$10,000 time share which they call travel memberships.

The Rock is going to come down to Winnipeg kick down the doors
of the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center on Court Avenue
and will take Noel and his monkey ass assistant Dave down Know
Your Role Boulevard which is on the corner of Jabroni Drive and
check both their monkey asses directly into the Smackdown Hotel!
The the rock will then sit down Noel and his monkey ass assitant
Dave to a big helping of Mae Young's fabulous poontang pie. Right
after they are done eating those poontang pies the Rock will grab
2 of those phony $10,000 Paradise Canyon Vacation memberships one
in each hand shine them up real nice turn them both side ways and
stick them straight up their candy asses.

Better still the Rock will team up with John Cena at wrestlemanina
take down Noel and his candy ass assistant Dave, will go one on one with
the great one and team bring it will lay down the smackdown on both these
jabronees candy asses right in the middle of the ring in front of the
millions and millions of the Rocks' fans, Once the Rock is done with these
2 jabroness not only will they know their role but they will be able to
smell what the rock is cooking.

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- Bring your own toilet paper

I worked for the call centre at Paradise Canyon vacation in Winnipeg, every week Noel
would bring us in the presentation room and threaten us if we didn't do better he
would "clean house" and fire us. If you saw the bathrooms you would take getting
fired as a blessing. The bathroom floors were never mopped, Noel would just dump
20 gallons of water on the floors and there would be 2 inches of water on the
floors, until it dried. Then we had the ants crawling all over the bathroom
floors, rumor has it that they were Gaga's aka Sega’s crabs, the girl who
slanders employees on scam.com, complaining of smell when in fact the smell was
coming from her own yeast infection. The garbage pails were always full of
employees garbage and doughnuts, that would explain all the ants, the garbage
was emptied a good once a month, the garbage was always 2 feet over the small
garbage pails. As for the bathrooms there was hardly ever any toilet paper,
the employees were using the toilet paper to dry their hands since the paper
towel dispensers were always empty. If you have to go to the bathroom for a
crap you had better remember to bring your own toilet paper from home.

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- Bullies Employees

Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is alot of favourtism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you dont produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employees only money,
and the $10,000 to $15,000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.

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- Harasses Seniors

Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors
trying to make them come to a supposedly free
presentation with 2 free gifts which no one
ever receives, they tell seniors it is
information only, leave your money at home,
when in reality the membership is $10,000
to $15,000, $3,500 down and $40 to $60 per
month for the next 20 years, one night Wendy
the Horrible told Noel, "shes a senior 85
and dont travel", the Noel told her to
sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your
$10,000 even if you have 1 foot in the grave.
They have no compassion or morals, and should
be respecting seniors instead of conning them
and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement
money.

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- Campaign songs

- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10,000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10,000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10,000
Fifty ways to lose $10,000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10,000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10,000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10,000
Fifty ways to lose $10,00

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- 50 Ways to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3,500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10,000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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- Dont cry for me Argentina

Performed by Abby, Minor Volleyball Association
right hand girl who sometimes uses her left
and who was also employed with Paradise Canyon
Vacation in October 2011 for a week.

Dont cry for me Paradise canyon Vacation

It wont be easy to give up $10,000, I'll think your travel service is strange
When the salesman will try to explain the $3,500 non refundable deposit and how I will feel
That they will need my $40 to $60 a month for 20 years and love after all that they've done

You won't believe me that travel prices are no cheaper if you shop around
All you will see is a salesman at a presentation you once knew
Although he's dressed up to the nines
At sixes and sevens he will still lie to you

I had to let the presentation happen, I had to see if there was a change
Couldn't stay all my life not traveling and down at heel
Looking out of the window contemplating about writng out that cheque for $10,000,
with promises of soon being in the sun

So I chose the freedom plus 20 year $15,000 membership
Running, flying around, hotels and spas trying everything new
But nothing about Paradise Canyon Vacation impressed me at all
I never expected it to

Chorus:

Don't cry for me Paradise canyon Vacation
The truth is I never left you $10,000
All through my wild days you kept calling during supper
My mad existence made only worse with your presentations
I kept my promise not to become one of your travel members
And if Don't keep your distance, I will call the BBB

And as for fortune you tried to scam from me, and as for fame you promised
I never invited them or your salesman in
Though it seemed to the world that the travel membership is not what I desired

They are illusions just like your phony salesmen
The travel savings are not the solutions they promised to be
The answer was here all the time, not to pick up the phone
I hate you and hope you stop calling me me

Don't cry for me Paradise Canyon Vacation

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- Whos zoomin who?

Who's Zoomin' Who Lyrics
Performed by Abby who worked at the Paradise Canyon
Vacation call center for a week in October 2011, but got
fired and is now with the Minor Volleyball Association.

You walked in the presentation room on the sly
Scopin' for those who love to travel and a $10,000 membership fee
In the crowd, I caught your sneaky salesman eye
You can't hide your stuff and your lengthy contracts

You came to catch and tried to scam me
You thought I'd be naive and tame
You met your match Paradise Canyon vacation
I beat you at your own game you phoney salesman

(chorus)
Who's zoomin' who, take another look at this empty cheque, tell me baby
Who's zoomin who...oh
Who's zoomin' who, now the fish jumped off the $10,000 hook
Didn't I baby...Who's zoomin' who (repeat)

Guess you believed the world I would have traveled
Didn't Played by your rules of $3,500 non refundable
Here stands an experienced girl who wont give you $40 to $60 a month for life
I'm Nobody's fool...

Don't speculate that i'm joining your travel membership
you thought you had me covered, but
I've got your bait from reading on line scam posts
You're bound to be a loser...so go
(chorus)

You think you're smooth with your 2 free gifts
That you can pick and choose
When the time is right to attend your presentations...
But, just look behind, you'll be surprised to find
I'm not going to your presentation tonight...oh
(chorus)

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- "can you spare $10,000?'

Paradise Canyon Vacations tele marketers will call you during supper,
offer you 2 free night stay and dinner for 2, for attending an 1 hour
presentation, tell you to leave your wallet at home, strictly
information only, in reality the membership is $10,000 to $15,000 with
$3,500 which is non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20 years,
which you don't find out untill the saleasman comes to your home with a
lengthy contract to sign, the tele marketers will tell you "you can't
buy nothing at the presentation" and call you the day before, leave your
money at home but bring a cheque for $10,000. Furthermore the salesman
presentation is completely different from what they tell you when they
arrive at your home, only when they get to your home do they mention the
$10,000 to $15,000 membership fee.

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- Cashadvancecomplaints.com

Cashadvancecomplaints.com , chillingeffects.org and scam.com are all licking
Paradise Canyon Vacation's balls, removing all negative posts about Paradise
Canyon Vacation, for your information Cashadvancecomplaints.com this travel
company which denies being a timeshare company even though Noel told us
co workers that members receive enough free points to only stay 2 weeks at a
time share resort and Noel said that the company finances the $10,000 to
$15,000 like a bank financing a car loan, as for shady when our cousin
approached and asked Noel about Loren one of it's employees selling stolen
xbox, playstation, wii games and blu ray movies Noel said it was ok as long
as employees got good prices.
Cashadvancecomplaints.com you go ahead and protect crooked companies and let
innocent people get scammed, how much did Paradise Canyon Vacation pay you
to remove the posts, did they give your President a free $10,000 memebership??
There are enough urinals for you to lick at the Paradise Canyon vacation
call center join scam.com and chillingeffects.org , thats all you crooked sites
are good for taking bribes to remove crooked comapny posts. For every negative
post you guys take down 100 more will go up to replace them. The internet is
freedom of speech and you crooked sites like yours aree only working for
big corporations not the little people.

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- check before you buy

VonRijn - 06-16-2009 08:06

Check with Alberta Consumer Affairs, whether they have a BOND filed with the
government of Alberta.

Sure smells, as you say.

News just yesterday reported that one of Alberta's largest travel agencies -
HAROLD SMITH TRAVEL, with lots of branches - WENT BANKRUPT
stranding loads of suckers.

Only those who used a credit card will get refunds, while those who paid cash
lost all.

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- Chillingeffects.org can kiss our asses

Chillingeffects.org for your information Paradise Canyon Vacation
is keeping information from the public, not telling callers that the
travel membewrships are $10,000 to $15,000, another thing
chillingeffects.org when the manager Noel was approached about Loren
an employee selling stolen xbox, play station, wii games and blue ray
movies, Noel said it was ok as long as employees got good prices.
So your trying to protect Paradise canyon Vacation so they can keep
ripping people off, and keep selling stolen goods on company property.
You are like scam.com protecting crooked companies who cry about losing
sales they get from misguiding information. Chillingeffects.org the
internet is freedom of speech, as we were told by the police station
when Noel used scare tactics accusing him of posting blogs when Noel
fired thousands of employees, "cleaning house" so Noel says every other
week. His own Filipino people he shits on and there are many angry
Filipinos. Chillingeffects.org go ahead and post :

"In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright
Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the
DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org."

Thats right keep trying to take away the peoples right to free speech online to
speak out and be heard about shady, crooked companies. Your only making a fool of
yourselves just like scam.com removing all the Paradise Canyon Vacation complaints,
for every post scam.com took down 100 more will go up to replace them, so scam.com
you can go and join chillingeffects.org and go lick the urinals at the Paradise
Canyon Vacation call center. How do you like that for freedom of internet speech.

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- Complaintboard.com

Paradise Canyon Vacation is now paying complaintboard.com, they have
removed at least 8 pages of complaints from their website, just like
scam.com and cashadvancecomplaints.com pretending to be a trusted site
being aided by chillingeffects.org in the protection of crooked companies.
So the president of complaintboard.com was also given a $10,000 travel
membership to remove all negative posts from the website and not allow new
complaints against Paradise Canyon Vacation, for your informtaion
complaintboard.com when the manager Noel was approached about Loren an
employee selling stolen xbox, playstation wii games and blu ray movies Noel
said it was ok as long as employees got good prices also they are misleading
the public with their presentations and not telling people its $10,000 to
$15,000 membership fee. Here are 2 valid and legitimate complaints from
very trusted websites tripadvisor.ca , and also britishexpats.com

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- Yes, it is a scam.

LeWeez
New Member

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1

Yes, it is a scam. We attended the presentation, which sounded
somewhat legitimate, so we tried the follow-up one-to-one.
The latter was with "Jack", the worst salesperson on earth.
He was rude, evasive, and condescending. He would not directly
answer our questions. I could go on and on. But in short: Run for
the hills, folks. And yes, they DO sell your private information.
I've already received junk mail for more "exciting presentations",
addressed directly to me. Since they are a member of the Better
Business Bureau (4 complaints in the year since they became
members should be a tip-off), I might be the 5th complainant
if the junk mail doesn't stop or if I start receiving calls.

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- Yes It Is A SCAM!!!

Rainman75
Fort...
Posts: 1

31 March 2011, 1:24

I got suckered and yes it is a scam! Paradise Canyon
Vacations "deals" are no better then anywhere else and
in some cases we found Paradise Canyon Vacation trips
to be more expensive then our friends who would just
book through a travel agent.
At the Paradise Canyon Vacation SCAM presentation
they constantly tell you how you can get great rates
(like $200/wk) at great places all over the world
without blackout dates. Using this company I've
never paid less then $1300/wk!! The best times to
travel are ALWAYS BLACKED OUT at Paradise
Canyon Vacations!
I travel a lot and I save VERY little using
Paradise Canyon Vacations
kerisosh's plug is a direct quote from the sales pitch!
It's all bulls**t and it's bad for you!!

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at least they didn't take down the posts like your crooked site.
Complaintboard.com you say yopu are a trusted site yet you delete
complaints, you can join scam.com and chillingeffects.org
and lick the urinals at the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center.
For every post you take down 100 more will go up to replace them
you think you can save Paradise canyon vacation so they can go on
scamming and misleading, the internet is here to protect innocent
people from losing $10,000 to $15,000 to rci time share companies
pretending to be a travel membership service. Noel said to the
workers that members get enough points to stay 2 weeks at a
timeshare resort, and also Noel told the workers that Paradise
Canyon vacation is like a bank financing the $10,000 to $15,000
also Noel said that Paradise Canyon Vacation is an affiliate of rci.

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– Corncobs at work

What did tele marketers use when out of toilet paper?

Thank your lucky stars you don't work for Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bucko.

Let me tell you about … corncobs. You may not believe this, but it was once common practice at the
Paradise Canyon Vacation call center to leave a corncob hanging from a string in the bathroom stall
for purposes of personal hygiene. The string, I gather, was to permit the cob to be reused. For
those who were punctilious in these matters, or else blessed with an abundance of corncobs, a box
of disposable cobs might be provided if the tele marketer met his sales goal for the week instead.
On Sundays and Mondays, the cob might be replaced by a mussel shell.
For those tele marketers with 2 or more sales in the evening, paper from discarded books or newspapers
was often provided by management to either of the foregoing. The meteoric growth of the Paradise Canyon
Vacation pamphlets, for instance, is thought to be partly attributable to
the protean nature of its catalogs, which, historians tells us, might serve a family of regular habits
for an entire season. As with the cob, the Paradise Canyon vacation pamphlets would be hung
in the bathroom on a string and pages torn off as needed. It's said the use of coated stock, which was
nonabsorbent, was a source of great consternation to travel members who could afford to join at
$10,000 to $15,000. when Paradise Canyon Vacation began printing color pictures in their pamphlets.
Families, in attempting to teach their sons to be cultivated gentlemen, often advised hoarding an
inexpensive volume of Paradise Canyon vacation Travel pamphlets for use in the loo. The idea, of course,
was that while you were sitting there in a contemplative state you'd be able to read
why Paradise canyon Vacations is no cheaper than other travel service and most often you will find more
expensive if you shop around, following which the paper aka travel pamphlet could be put to other ends,
so to speak. It hasn't escaped my notice that my magnum opus, that is Latin for stay away from Paradise
Canyon Vacation, is also well suited for this purpose. Maybe we should perforate the pages, for maximum
comfort and ease because that is all the travel pamphlet is good for.

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- Cracked Foundations

Jeanherself
New Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1

I have to post. I am from Lethbridge. The real estate
at Paradise Canyon is sliding into the coulees as the
builders did not go down to bedrock on the hills.
Currently you can see 2 of the $350,000 to $500,000
house for schedule A sale at $159,000 and 175,000.
Schedule A means you are buying as is with no recourse
if the condo/house continues to slip. THESE HOUSES
HAVE CRACKED FOUNDATIONS AS MANY OTHERS HAD AND THERE
IS NO QUICK FIX as I called a structural engineer and
he said they won't touch Paradise due to the numerous
lawsuits. You have to get pilings to go down to bedrock
and each can cost $30,000 to $50,ooo apiece. You may
need 1 or 4 to stabilize each structure. Go to mls.ca
and get to the Lethbridge listings to view the beautiful
homes on firesale at Paradise Canyon! I looked inmto it
because of the prices. The real estate guys won't even
buy to resale.
PS- The river is the Old Man river not the Milk River.

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- Dave Breeding Turkeys

Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left is now enjoying the outdoors
chasing male turkeys while doing his imitation
turkey mating call. To help supplement his
income Dave has been helping turkeys to breed,
since he's been saving his right hand to assist
Noel, why not make extra money using his left
hand to save the turkey population. so next time
your having a family thanks giving dinner and your
about to say grace before carving the turkey say a
little prayer and thank Dave for without his left
hand there would be no turkey on the table, and if
Paradise canyon Vacation calls during supper tell
the caller to tell Dave that you got better things
to do with your right hand than write them a cheque
for $10,000.

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