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Guy Algar and Motorheads Performance Andrea White, Leesville Texas Motorheads allegedly has no certified credentials or training in Classic Auto Resto
27th of Apr, 2011 by User700956
This review is based on verifiable facts. However, every fact has two sides to a story. As a consumer, you should research any business involving large money investments or any expenditures. With Motorheads Performance, Leesville, Texas, please be diligent. Make sure you receive an estimate from this business prior to any work commencing. Then make sure you check the quality of the work you requested and prior to paying for the work. You may be billed, as I was, for parts pickup (several times over), research for parts, ordering parts, additional fees for pickup of parts, and "design fees." For example, if a small metal mount has to be fabricated, you will be charged a "design" fee. I had similar items fabricated by a welding shop and there was no design fee and the price was significantly lower. You may find your invoices skyrocketing with business owners Guy Algar and Andrea White aka Motorheads Performance. The business owner(s) are allegedly not certified ASE mechanics, they are not a certified I-Car paint shop, and they are not a certified engine machine shop. The latter certifications are desired standards in the auto repair and auto restoration business. The shop is located out in the middle of farm and ranch country on a country road. This country road is on the outskirts of the small town of Nixon, Texas. The last time I visited this business, there was no business sign. Motorheads Performance is run out of the owner's garage on his residential property. Apparently there are other internet businesses also run by Guy Algar and Andrea White via various internet websites. Please check Scorpio Design Services to verify my statements at www.scorpiodesignservices.com. Motorheads Performance claim in newspaper advertisements and related media, that they are a full service trailer repair shop. Additionally, they claim they provide the following services: Business Management and Design Services, Internet Hosting Services, Website Development, Design Services, and so forth. This is in addition to trailer repair and auto restoration services? Motorheads Performance also claim in newspaper advertisements and related media, that they are a full service trailer repair shop. However, when they bill you for several parts pick up charges, they then tell you they are no longer a full service shop and so you must incur their charges for travel to pick up basic parts like nuts and bolts. For example, you may be charged $35.00 to pick up bolts or other fasteners. Guy Algar is a Mechanical Engineer. However, allegedly he is not an ASE mechanic, and he is not a renowed auto restoration expert. There are distinctions between a Mechanical Engineer and a certified auto restoration and auto mechanic. Andrea White apparently is a management and marketing professional, as stated in their websites. However, Motorheads also claim she is a technician currently repairing automobile transmissions. Repairing transmissions is a complex area involving extensive training. Both Guy Algar and Andrea White indicate on their websites, self-authored articles, and their own blogs that they have years of experience in trailer repair and automotive restorations. Guy Algar apparently also fixes farm equipment ? Check the facts and ask for proof. Caveat: Please compare estimates to other businesses. Other businesses may not charge you to research parts and hourly rates to order parts. I had to negotiate a settlement with this business via small claims court. I had estimates from three other businesses pertaining to the labor charge Motorheads planned to charge me. In each instance, Motorheads were at least 50 percent more than comparable repair businesses. In short=Caveat emptor!
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4699 days ago by Gearhead
Sounds like a sour grape consumer to me. Who says that motorheads has to be a large incorporated warehouse/building? Who says you have to be ASE certified to work on or restore cars? Do you think Roth or Barris was ASE certified? NO but they are legends because they loved their trade and did it all from design to layout to chassis, engine, electrical, custom body work and paint. If this person writing this article was unhappy it does not mean that Motorheads isn't a reputable small business.They have to charge for errands/small parts runs and hardware, why should they absorb the cost of gas and their times worth something. I am not Guy or Andrea but I know Guy and have worked on cars with him here up in the Northeast, he's competent and capable. Did I mention that I have my ASE certifications? Does that really matter? Nope!! Ronnie
4699 days ago by TryOtherAutoShops
Yo Ronnie aka Gearhead: No, an auto restoration business does not have to have ASE Certification but it helps. You mention you have ASE certifications. Therefore, if it is not important why did you attain that credential? This is one way of assuring your customers you have formal training.

No one indicates or expects that Guy Algar and Motorheads have to be a large business. But, it appears they are running their business out of their residential garage. Their garage is out in the middle of farm country.Thats ok. This explains why they have to "nickle and dime" (this term means passing all costs to customers at an unfair rate) customers by charging for many items many auto shops would not charge for. If so, they should consider lowering their labor rates. Moreover, Guy Algar, Andrea White, and Motorheads Performance would probably fare better in terms of professional believeability if they did not have so many other businesses running out of their home and via the internet. A consumer has to wonder which business are they truly expert in. For example, they advertise they repair trailers, they repair farm equipment, they are internet web designers, they produce business cards, they do CAD and other drawings, they are good in time management and business start ups, and a host of other alleged skill sets. Then you have Andrea White advertising herself as an automotive shop technician and she repairs transmissions. Maybe so, but it is circumspect. So, the writer merely asked for proof of training, automotive professional courses, and seminars. In today's world many professions (including hair dressers) have to be certified. For example, you never know if Joe Blow is just some guy who put up a shingle and claimed he is an auto restoration expert.

In short, no you don't have to have ASE certifications. But if you plan to charge top dollar, at least show you have training in the career field of auto restorations, auto painting, and engine rebuilding. This does not have to be ASE certification but at least outline some form of formal training or career enhancing courses in your field.

The writer questions whether Guy Algar, Andrea White, and Motorheads Performance are professionally trained by a community college program, by an automotive institute, by seminars, or by available course offerings. This is called being an informed consumer. It does not equate to "sour grapes."

Finally, if you compare Guy Algar to Roth or Barris, then you really are having too many liquid lunches or smoking the crack pipe. Guy Algar is far from being a legend. Please provide any articles he has written on auto restoration, any recommendations from Roth or Barris, any projects winning national acclaim? He is a guy who allegedly moved from the Northeast, purchased some acres in Texas, and then claimed he is an auto restoration professional. His background appears to be in Engineering for companies in the Northeast or elsewhere. A professional Engineer is a noble profession. However, a shade tree mechanic and dabbling in auto restoration is not the same thing as working as an Engineer. Working as an Engineer is not necessarily the same thing as a qualified mechanic-- whether ASE certified or not.

The writer merely advises consumers to read between the lines. If they want to hire Guy Algar and Motorheads Performance, they have that choice. However, consumers should consider all the facts and experience levels.

If you are unable to grasp the fact that consumers have the right to be assured of professional qualifications in the auto restoration business, then your response is merely uniformed and "sour grapes."

Signed,

An informed auto hobbyist.
4670 days ago by BeintheKnow
New Information: Guy Algar and Andrea White allegedly have inaccurate information on their website at www.motorheadsperformance. com.

What about a company listing inaccurate information on their website. If you call the companies that Guy Algar and Motorheads Performance indicate they are certified by, you may find the companies deny this fact. If the information placed on Guy Algar's and Andrea White's website are inaccurate, embellished, or display alleged false advertising, then how do you trust the rest of this company. For example, would an "upstanding individual" place self-authored endorsements on a published website that are basically untrue.

Guy Algar is not a certified mechanic or certified anything according to various companies. Guy Algar is not a certified ASE Mechanic. Guy Algar allegedly is a guy who decided to open up an auto restoration shop with no certified qualifications in any automotive field. If you feel comfortable with this, then hire Guy Algar to restore or repair your classic auto or other project. If you are comfortable with Guy Algar "liberally using words" to indicate he is "Certified" then that is a choice you make. Just call the companies on his website that he states have certified him. Ask them if Guy Algar is a certified installer for example. Then don't be surprised by the responses you receive. A fact check with the companies listed by Guy Algar that he indicates certified him reveals that he is either not certified or the programs have been discontinued.

Be an alert and wise consumer. Check out Guy Algar's and Motorheads Performance website and conduct follow up inquiries. For example, call the Chamber of Commerce in Seguin, Texas and ask if this company is a current member?

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