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Paradise Canyon Vacation
Paradise Canyon Vacation Harasses Senios
14th of Sep, 2011 by stickshiftinhand1
Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors trying to make them come to a supposedly free presentation with 2 free gifts which no one ever receives, they tell seniors is information only, leave your money at home, when in reality the membership is $10,000 to $15,000, $3,500 down and $40 to $60 per month for the next 20 years, one female worker told her boss, "shes a senior 85 and dont travel", the boss told her to sell to her just the same. Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your $10,000 even if you have 1 foot in the grave. They have no compassion or morals and just want to scam unsuspecting seniors.
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4578 days ago by Samantha_fox190
Re: Paradise Canyon Scam - is it worth my while?

Sunshine582
New Member

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1


Hi,

Yes this is one of the first hits that comes up when you google Paradise Canyon Vacations.

I was invited to one of these presentations and while I could never afford to buy in (University student) I was going to go for the 2 free nights in a hotel.

Did anyone else go to a presentation and actually get this offering? Is it worth my precious homework time?
4578 days ago by Samantha_fox190
Re: Paradise Canyon Scam - cracked foundations

jeanherself
New Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1

I have to post. I am from Lethbridge. The real estate at Paradise Canyon is sliding into the coulees as the builders did not go down to bedrock on the hills. Currently you can see 2 of the $350, 000 to $500, 000 house for schedule A sale at $159, 000 and 175, 000. Schedule A means you are buying as is with no recourse if the condo/house continues to slip. THESE HOUSES HAVE CRACKED FOUNDATIONS AS MANY OTHERS HAD AND THERE IS NO QUICK FIX as I called a structural engineer and he said they won't touch Paradise due to the numerous lawsuits. You have to get pilings to go down to bedrock and each can cost $30, 000 to $50, ooo apiece. You may need 1 or 4 to stabilize each structure. Go to mls.ca and get to the Lethbridge listings to view the beautiful homes on firesale at Paradise Canyon! I looked inmto it because of the prices. The real estate guys won't even buy to resale.
PS- The river is the Old Man river not the Milk River.
4578 days ago by Samantha_fox190
Re: Paradise Canyon Scam - Yes It Is A SCAM!

Rainman75
Fort...
Posts: 1

31 March 2011, 1:24

I got suckered and yes it is a scam! Paradise Canyon Vacations "deals" are no better then anywhere else and in some cases we found Paradise Canyon Vacation trips to be more expensive then our friends who would just book through a travel agent.
At the Paradise Canyon Vacation SCAM presentation they constantly tell you how you can get great rates (like $200/wk) at great places all over the world without blackout dates. Using this company I've never paid less then $1300/wk!! The best times to travel are ALWAYS BLACKED OUT at Paradise Canyon Vacations!
I travel a lot and I save VERY little using Paradise Canyon Vacations
kerisosh's plug is a direct quote from the sales pitch!
It's all bulls**t and it's bad for you!!
4578 days ago by Samantha_fox190
Re: Paradise Canyon Scam - it's a time share

MuftiMixandma...
Vancouver...
Posts:7, 586

12 April 2011, 1:03

I guess it's a time share, so the proof would be in how convenient they would make sharing a place on the dates that you want. A quick google search of "PCV Reviews" showed the following. Perhaps you can find more results.
If their head office is in Lethbridge here's the BBB rating for the company:
bbb.org/calgary/business-reviews/travel-club…
Here's a slightly different one:
bbb.org/saskatchewan/business-reviews/resort…
4578 days ago by Samantha_fox190
Re: Paradise Canyon Scam - is it worth my while?
Sunshine582
New Member

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1


Hi,

Yes this is one of the first hits that comes up when you google Paradise Canyon Vacations.

I was invited to one of these presentations and while I could never afford to buy in (University student) I was going to go for the 2 free nights in a hotel.

Did anyone else go to a presentation and actually get this offering? Is it worth my precious homework time?
4578 days ago by Samantha_fox192
Paradise Canyon Vacation - the 3 faces of Eve

Paradise Canyon Vacation is so shady that even their tele marketers
are liers and dishonest. If you get a call from a woman claiming to
be Jenna or Ella, her real name is Edna, all the same person using 3
names to try to fool people and rob them out of $10, 000, telling them
the presentation is free and will receive 2 free gifts, only 1 woman
in over a year said she received the free hotel stay, but had travel
to Florida, from central Canada to the other side of the USA, and had
to pay the airfare, you cant pick and choose where to stay, a free hotel
stay may cost thousands of dollars in air fare, but Jenna, Ella or
Edna all the same person wont tell you this, she is greedy and wants
you to go to the so called free presentation and be conned out of
$10, 000, she is a good con artist so be very aware.
4558 days ago by Anonymous
Paradise canyon Scam - selling stolen xbox games

Along with scamming people out of $10, 000 and lying
about free presentations and 2 free gifts. Paradise
Canyon Vacation tele-marketers can get net prices
on all their favorite xbox, playstation and wi games,
not to mention dvd hd and blu ray movies. All thanks to
Loren one of their top bookers. When Loren is not
behind bars and at work, he is selling xbox games and pc
games to his top buyer, Dave who is Noels right hand man
and sometimes he uses his left. Paradise Canyon gives
all this the thumbs up, because when Noel was approached
concerning the situation he said "it's ok as long as
employees get good prices", now would you join and
pay $10, 000 membership if the employees and right hand
man are all buying stolen dvds. They should be offering
these dvd movies and xbox games at the presentations at
employee prices, along with the dinner for 2 and the 2
free hotel night stay.
4535 days ago by Samantha_fox19
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

Why is Paradise Canyon Vacation like a toilet???

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam


- Abducted by a toilet


97 year old Woman freed after being trapped on lavatory for a week


A Winnipeg tele marketer woman from Paradise canyon Vacation call center
has been rescued after she fell into the lavatory and was trapped there
for a week.
The Winnipeg woman employee at the Winnipeg Paradise Canyon vacation call
center, who has not been named, was only found by the emergency services
after a co worker heard her cries for help.
When an ambulance arrived paramedics found her stuck on the lavatory
and unable to get out. She was dehydrated but otherwise unharmed,
despite having spent seven days wedged in the same position.
Reports said the woman, aged 97, was found in the evening on Sunday and had
become stuck the previous Sunday evening.
Eventually she was freed when emergency services broke into the call center
office through a back door and found her in the woman’s bathroom.
"The lady was maneuvered to one side to free her. The door swings inwards
and she had her feet wedged on either side of the lavatory, " a Department
of Community Services spokesman said.
"She was very dehydrated but she was conscious."
A co worker said the woman told him she had been there since 6pm on Sunday.
"To me that meant that evening but she meant last Sunday.
“The co worker had not become concerned earlier because
it was normal to not see the woman or any other tele marketers
taking any calls during the week, he said.
"I'd never even seen her dialing any calls, " he said "but we still
got paid just the same"

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Bring your own toilet paper

I worked for the call centre at Paradise Canyon vacation in Winnipeg, every week Noel
would bring us in the presentation room and threaten us if we didn't do better he
would "clean house" and fire us. If you saw the bathrooms you would take getting
fired as a blessing. The bathroom floors were never mopped, Noel would just dump
20 gallons of water on the floors and there would be 2 inches of water on the
floors, until it dried. Then we had the ants crawling all over the bathroom
floors, rumor has it that they were Gaga's aka Sega’s crabs, the girl who
slanders employees on scam.com, complaining of smell when in fact the smell was
coming from her own yeast infection. The garbage pails were always full of
employees garbage and doughnuts, that would explain all the ants, the garbage
was emptied a good once a month, the garbage was always 2 feet over the small
garbage pails. As for the bathrooms there was hardly ever any toilet paper,
the employees were using the toilet paper to dry their hands since the paper
towel dispensers were always empty. If you have to go to the bathroom for a
crap you had better remember to bring your own toilet paper from home.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

– Corncobs at work

What did tele marketers use when out of toilet paper?


Thank your lucky stars you don't work for Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bucko.

Let me tell you about … corncobs. You may not believe this, but it was once common practice at the
Paradise Canyon Vacation call center to leave a corncob hanging from a string in the bathroom stall
for purposes of personal hygiene. The string, I gather, was to permit the cob to be reused. For
those who were punctilious in these matters, or else blessed with an abundance of corncobs, a box
of disposable cobs might be provided if the tele marketer met his sales goal for the week instead.
On Sundays and Mondays, the cob might be replaced by a mussel shell.
For those tele marketers with 2 or more sales in the evening, paper from discarded books or newspapers
was often provided by management to either of the foregoing. The meteoric growth of the Paradise Canyon
Vacation pamphlets, for instance, is thought to be partly attributable to
the protean nature of its catalogs, which, historians tells us, might serve a family of regular habits
for an entire season. As with the cob, the Paradise Canyon vacation pamphlets would be hung
in the bathroom on a string and pages torn off as needed. It's said the use of coated stock, which was
nonabsorbent, was a source of great consternation to travel members who could afford to join at
$10, 000 to $15, 000. when Paradise Canyon Vacation began printing color pictures in their pamphlets.
Families, in attempting to teach their sons to be cultivated gentlemen, often advised hoarding an
inexpensive volume of Paradise Canyon vacation Travel pamphlets for use in the loo. The idea, of course,
was that while you were sitting there in a contemplative state you'd be able to read
why Paradise canyon Vacations is no cheaper than other travel service and most often you will find more
expensive if you shop around, following which the paper aka travel pamphlet could be put to other ends,
so to speak. It hasn't escaped my notice that my magnum opus, that is Latin for stay away from Paradise
Canyon Vacation, is also well suited for this purpose. Maybe we should perforate the pages, for maximum
comfort and ease because that is all the travel pamphlet is good for.

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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam


- Employee asleep for two days on call center toilet


Published: 2011 Oct 06 7:26pm



A 47-year-old man was asleep on Paradise Canyon Vacation call center toilet

for one and a half days before being discovered by staff, it has emerged.

The man had been hired as a casual tel;e marketer 26th October 2011, suffering

from pains in the chest and abdomen from stressful calls. Co workers gave him samples

of thier calls, and decided he be ok for the rest of the night.

But Noel came to his desk at 7:30pm to give him his booking results, his chair was empty

and the worker had disappeared.

Staff searched for the man in the immediate vicinity of the the call center, but did not find him.

Supervisors assumed that the man had left the call center, so Noel discharged him. It was only

nearly two days later that the man was found in a toilet

adjacent to Noel's office. He appeared to have gone there on his own, locked himself in the

toilet and fell aleep.

"He had been there for one and a half days, " said Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes

uses his left acting as a spokesman to The Local.

Franzén said she could not reveal whether doctors had considered the man's condition to be

life-threatening, but she did say that he had not been confused.

"If a tele marketer is in a confused state then we keep an eye on them, but that was

not judged to be the case here."

Dave said that a more thorough search of the call center for the man had not been

judged necessary.

"We are a very big call center, and it's not unusual for workers to just leave.

We didn't look for him because he was not confused."

The call center said in the future that bathroom passes will be assigned.

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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam

- Female Tele marketer f-a-r-t-s

Tele Marketer Wendy Suspended For Passing Gas

Girl's Family Says Punishment Too Steep

Winnipeg, Manitoba -- A chubby female tele marketer has been suspended
from work because she intentionally passed gas, according to
Paradise Canyon Vacation management.
Noel reported that Wendy a veteran fat tele marketer was suspended from
Paradise canyon Vacation call center under a company rule against
disruptive behavior and eating beans in the lunchroom.
Supervisors said Wendy repeatedly passed gas to make Ozzie laugh, but
instead Ozzie past out from the stench. Dave, Noel's right hand man
who sometimes uses his left had to give Ozzie mouth to mouth
resuscitation with an occasional slip of the tongue.
They said the smell also made it difficult to breathe making the other
tele marketers and co workers turn blue in the face and gasping for air.
Noel said that when he heard Wendy farting it was like a wild herd of
elephants trumping and blowing their trunks.
Wendy's family said their daughter isn't perfect and they're appealing
the suspension, saying the manager Noel went too far with its punishment.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Gaga aka Sega has crabs or is that dinner for 2

Now that the truth comes out about Paradise Canyon Vacation employees selling stolen Xbox,
play station pc games and blue ray movies, the employees like Gaga aka Sega come out of
the wood word to protect their jobs, Gaga aka Sega you can go and eat the shit out of
Paradise Canyon toilets call centre, because you’re a piece of shit like the rest of
them, I sat next to this person you’re trying to slander and he was a perfect gentleman,
and even though he rode to work, he changed his clothes and brought spare clothes, as for
mental the only mental people is you for protecting Paradise Canyon Vacation it's funny
Gaga aka Sega how you didn’t mention the stolen sports jerseys and stolen Xbox games and
blue ray movies and when our cousin's bike seat was stolen he mentioned to Noel about
Loren selling stolen movies and Xbox games and Noel the manager told our cousin it was
ok as long as employees got good prices, Gaga aka Sega why did you leave out employees
selling and buying stolen goods Gaga aka Sega how much did Noel pay you to slander our
cousin, or is Gaga really Noel impersonating an employee to try and save his company
and sales Gaga aka Sega you can lick my ass and let me crap in your mouth, look at you
trying to scam innocent people out of $10, 000 dollars, next time you’re on the phone,
just tell the truth and tell the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month
for 20 years oh and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign, when you can do
this, then you can talk shit about people, till then keep licking the urinals at Paradise
Canyon Vacation call centre. You didn’t quit gaga Noel fired your ass because you couldn’t
produce bookings, and Gaga aka Sega those ants in the ladies bathroom floor, those are not ants,
those were your crabs, were those crabs the free dinner for two you were offering callers on the
phone to attend the free presentation, Gaga aka Sega go see a doctor you skank.

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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Lavatory tips

Lavatory Tips From One Paradise Canyon Vacation employee Who Knows

Submitted by Tele marketer Laura on Tue, 12/12/2010 - 15:26 //




Manager's note: this was submitted yesterday as a comment on our
discussion about improving Paradise Canyon Vacation toilets.

Good advice below; worthy of being an article on its own.

I work as a tele marketer for a major time share company call center.

Here are a few tips for all you lavatory-phobes.

First of all: do not touch anything. As you enter the dreaded lav, grab a tissue and use it to lock the door,
to turn on the sink, and especially to open the door when you leave. Also, bring hand sanitizer with you.
Call centers may look clean, but think about the sheer amount of human traffic dropping germs everywhere.
I'm shocked to see how few tele marketers clean their hands. It's happened a few times that we had to put
little disposable handwipes in the lav when the sink was broken. And at the end of those shifts, it's
surprising how few of them have been used.

Second piece of advice: wear shoes! I am always shocked to see how many people go into the lav without shoes
or socks on. Don't they realize
that the liquid that permeates the floor is piss potpourri? So roll up your long pants before you enter!
The lavs rarely get disinfected.
Between most shifts, Noel is on a tight schedule and barely has the time to give the place more that a
quick once-over.

Next piece of advice is to remember that not all the lavs in a call center are the same. If you are a person with
a disability, or if you are obese, or if you need to help another worker to use the lav, most call centers have
special features to help you.
For instance, many have curtains that can be closed for privacy if ever the lav door must stay open to accommodate
more that one tele marketer. Some lavs even have removable walls. Also, there is usually at least one lav with a
baby change table.

(Just remember that it's covered with dangerous fecal bacteria -- line it with seat covers or something.)
And don't be embarrassed to

ask Dave or Noel for help -- we are used to such things.

My next piece of advice: time your washroom breaks carefully. The worst and busiest times to use the lav?
Right after the break is finished.

Another bad time, especially on a long call, is right before landing a lead, when we make the announcement
that Noel is about to throw 20

gallons on the floor to clean the bathrooms.

Everyone then goes to brush their teeth and curl their eyelashes. Another delicate time to go is when
we have our supervisors in the aisle.
You have to time it right or else you may get stuck at the back and have to wait till everyone else
finishes their service. If workers had to wait then run back and forth every time someone wanted
to go to or come back from the lav, we would never get anything done. So please, don't get nasty
if you do get stuck and end up shitting your drawers becuase all the bathrooms are full

My next suggestion is for those of you who may get stuck in a seat right next to a really smelly
lav: ask the the supervisors Dave, Catherine or Debbie for an unused pouch of coffee grounds to
hold close to your nose. It blocks almost any odor. I noticed that many Asian tele marketers like
Edna think ahead and bring those little facemasks that cover their nose and mouth, thus protecting
them from germs and odors. Pretty smart.

Finally, my best advice would be to not wait until the last minute to go -- even if that means
climbing over the big snoring co worker dude in the aisle [yes you Dave}.

It really sucks when your bladder is about to rupture and you got to keep dialing the phone for
the rest of the shift.


(By the way, that little dirty look from Noel means you CANNOT use the lav before break.)

Oh, and for those people who ask why the lavs are not scrubbed mid-shift, I have a pretty
good idea

theory: tele marketers are trained to fight fires, to treat any first-aid emergencies that may
occur while on the phone, to fight off terrorists, to scam thousands of dollars from callers in
minutes, to speak numerous languages, and to stay calm and smile during life or death disasters;
but we are NOT trained to clean dirty toilets! Would any other educated, rigorously-trained
career-people be expected to clean up crap during their fourteen-hour shift? I doubt it.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Men will be boys

BRAVE NEW Work Place

Boys told no standing to urinate

'It is a human right not to have to sit down like a girl'

'Standing room only' work place

It's an entirely new definition of "Standing Room Only." Or perhaps a new measure of

"equality" has arrived.

Whatever it is, it has sparked a huge political debate at Paradise Canyon Vacation call center

The trigger for the explosion of opinion? A decision in the Winnipeg district that male tele

marketers must sit on toilet seats when urinating, not stand.

According to the news report, the rule was announced for boys and men at Paradise canyon Vacation

call center, prompting outrage from workers.

Accusing the company of "fiddling with God's work, " and now workers want the issue discussed at

the executive committee at Paradise Canyon Vacaton

"When men are not allowed to pee in the natural way, the way men have done for generations,

it is meddling with God's work, "

"It is a human right not to have to sit down like a girl, " said Sinder senior employee on

his return from India.

Noel did say that the restrooms are used by both boys and girls, and the young boys are not

"good enough at aiming" in order to have "a pleasant toilet."

Paradise Canyon Vacation officials are still listening to opinions on the issue.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Noel can sniff Gaga's aka Sega’s Panties

Now that Paradise Canyon Vacation is on line on the internet scam sites. Employees like Allbladerss and gaga
come out of the wood word to protect their jobs, Especially Gaga aka Sega trying to slander innocent workers,
whom she accuses of going on line telling the truth, that Paradise Canyon Vacation don't tell you till the
salesman arrives at your home that it’s $10, 000 to $15, 000 for the travel membership, and tell you completely
different at the presentations. Noel fired a whole bunch of people like he does every other week,
"cleaning house" as he says, Noel has pissed off many if not hundreds of ex employees including his own Filipino
people. So who is Gaga aka Sega to accuse of going on line you skank.
Allgallbalderss and gaga aka Sega you can both go and eat the shit out of Paradise Canyon toilets call centre,
because your both a piece of shit like the rest of them, gaga aka Sega is the biggest turd of them all
slandering other employees but gaga aka Sega didn’t mention that Noel the manager said it was ok for employees
to sell stolen Xbox, playstaion games as long as employees got good prices, funny how gaga left that part out
Gaga you enjoy trying to scam innocent people out of $10, 000 dollars, next time you two are on the phone, just
tell the truth and tell the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years oh and don't
forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign, Allgallbladerss when you can do this, then you can tell people
to eat your shit, till then you and Gaga keep licking the urinals at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre.
Gaga it’s easy to talk trash about others, when Noel is paying you to protect his sales, so don't give us the
bull shit you came on your own to shit on employees, by the way Gaga aka Sega that smell you talk about was not
the worker riding his bike to work he brought fresh clothes with him, that smell was of dead fish coming from
your panties, go and see a doctor for yeast infection you skank, or better still have a bake sale don't forget
to invite Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left to the bake sale Dave just loves
fish smelling cream pies.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Rising Urinal


Reading urinal rises to the occasion

Reading urinal
Now you see it... now you don't

The company's first rising urinal is to make its ascent in the hallway of Paradise Canyon Vacation

The Urilift is a tardis-like unit containing three urinals.

Cleverly hidden during the day under the tiles, disguised as a manhole cover it can be raised using
a hydraulic system operated by remote control on Noel's desk. Widely used in Manitoba, the invention
is designed to be used at night to stop tele marketers using desks and garbage pails as toilets.
Hopefully this facility will encourage men to walk an extra couple of yards to relieve themselves
It is visible, easily accessible and hygienic, and is located between Noels desk and the
presentation room in the heart of the call center
Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left, said he was thrilled that Paradise canyon
vacation Call center was the first place
in the country to install the technology.
Paradise Canyon vacation is famous for many things like scamming members out of $10, 000 but never
before have we been noted for our innovative sanitary facilities."
Manager Noel said there was a serious reason for installing the device.
Paradise Canyon Vacation thriving night-time calling and economy brings many benefits but the result
of some men's unhygienic behaviour is not one of them.
"Hopefully this facility will encourage the male tele marketers to walk an extra couple
of yards to relieve themselves."

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Tele marketer's head stuck in toilet seat

Firefighters Manitoba came to the rescue of a tele marketer who had a toilet seat stuck on his head.

The worker, aged 18 and a half, and his worried supervisor went to Winnipeg fire station after she

was unable to get the toilet seat off his head.

Firefighter said: "We put some dish washing liquid on his head and ears and it slid off nice as pie.

"The tele marketer was very brave and didn't make a fuss and once we had got the seat off he toddled

away as happy as can be."

The fireman added: "The tele marketer had put his head through it and couldn't get it out again,

he came in here wearing it like a collar.


"His supervisor had tried to get it over his head but couldn't budge it so she walked him down here

and asked us to have a look at it and we went to work and we managed to get it off in no time."

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- The Guide to Taking a Dump at Work


Originally published in 2005 as "The Paradise Canyon Vacation Tele marketers guide

to taking a dump in a call center"...this document is a living tribute to something

we all have to do at our jobs from time to time. Foul smells, rude sounds, and bad

reputations are the stuff of legend or nightmare for many a minimum wage worker

tele marketer. With this "Guide to taking a dump at work" we will "show you the ropes

and help through a difficult learning time for many, and a happy place for others...


Escapee -- A f-a-r-t that slips out while taking a leak at the urinal or forcing poop in

a stall. This is usually accompanied by a sudden wave of panic/embarrassment. This is

similar to the hot flash you receive when passing a police car while speeding. If you

release an escapee, do not acknowledge it. Pretend it did not happen. If you are standing

next to the f-a-r-t-e-r at the urinal, pretend that you did not hear it. No one likes an escapee,

it is uncomfortable for all involved. Making a joke or laughing makes both parties feel uneasy.


Jailbreak (Used in conjunction with escapee) -- When forcing poop, several farts slip

out at a machine gun's pace. This is usually

a side effect of diarrhea or a hangover. If this should happen do not panic, remain in

the stall until everyone has left the bathroom so to spare everyone the awkwardness of

what just occurred.


Courtesy Flush -- The act of flushing the toilet the instant the nose cone of the log hits

the water and the poop is whisked away to an undisclosed location. This reduces the amount

of air time the poop has to stink up the bathroom. This can help you avoid being caught

doing the WALK OF SHAME.


Walk of Shame -- Walking from the stall, to the sink, to the door after you have just

stunk-up the bathroom. This can be a very uncomfortable moment if someone walks in.

As with all f-a-r-t-s, it is best to pretend that the smell does not exist.

Out of the Closet Pooper -- A colleague who poops at work and is damn proud of it. You

will often see an Out of the Closet Pooper enter the bathroom with a newspaper or magazine

under their arm. Always look around the office for the Out of the Closet pooper before

entering the bathroom.


Pooping Friends Network -- A group of coworkers who band together to ensure emergency

pooping goes off without incident. This group can help you to monitor the whereabouts

of OUT OF THE CLOSET POOPERS and identify SAFE HAVENS.



Safe Haven -- A seldom-used bathroom somewhere in the building where you can least expect

visitors. Try floors that are predominantly of the opposite sex. This will reduce the odds

of a pooper of your sex entering the bathroom.


Turd Burgler -- A pooper who does not realize that you are in the stall and tries to force the

door open. This is one of the most shocking and vulnerable moments that occur when work taking

a dump at work. If this occurs, remain in the stall until the TURD BURGLAR leaves. This way, you

will avoid all uncomfortable eye contact.


Camo-cough -- A phony cough which alerts all new entrants into the bathroom that you are in a

stall. This can be used to cover-up a WATERMELON or to alert potential TURD BURGLARS. Very

effective when used in conjunction with an ASTAIRE.


Astaire -- A subtle toe-tap that is used to alert potential TURD BURGLARS that you are occupying a

stall. This will remove all doubt that the stall is occupied. If you hear an ASTAIRE, leave the

bathroom immediately so the pooper can poop in peace.


Watermelon -- A turd that creates a loud splash when hitting the toilet water. This is also an

embarrassing incident. If you feel a WATERMELON coming on, create a diversion. See CAMO-COUGH.


Havana Omelet -- A load of diarrhea that creates a series of loud splashes in the toilet water.

Often accompanied by an escapee. Try using a CAMO-COUGH with an ASTAIRE.


Uncle Ted -- A bathroom user who seems to linger around forever. Could spend extended lengths

of time in front of the mirror or sitting on the pot. An UNCLE TED makes it difficult to relax

while on the c-r-a-p-p-e-r, as you should always wait to drop your load when the bathroom is empty.

This benefits you as well as the other bathroom attendees.


Fly-by -- The act of scouting out a bathroom before pooping. Walk in, check for other poopers.

If there are others in the bathroom, leave, and come back again. Be careful not to become a

FREQUENT FLYER. People may become suspicious if they catch you constantly going into the bathroom.



Crack Whore -- A c-r-a-p-p-e-r that has seen more ass than a Greyhound Bus. Tell- tale signs of a CRACK WHORE

include pubes, p-i-s-s stains and s-h-i-t streaks. Avoid CRACK WHORES at all cost. Try finding out when the

janitor cleans each particular bathroom. Don't forget, a CRACK WHORE can become a SAFE HAVEN.

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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- THE HELL OF RESTROOMS

When I was at Paradise Canyon Vacation Call Center,
we had a small bathroom next to the closet. It was nothing fancy, just a sink and a toilet, but it got the job done.
A reversible sign on the door had a red STOP and a green GO to let you know whether or not someone was inside.
Of course, our high society humor would call for switching the sign to GO while someone was inside, and let the hilarity ensue.
One day, Dave the supervisor, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left, tapped me on the shoulder and started yelling
at me for peeing on the toilet seat and floor. I hadn't even used the bathroom yet that day, so the sloppy pisser had to have
been someone else another tele marketer. But arguing with Dave was next to impossible, so I had to spend my entire lunch break
wiping the floor with bits of toilet paper, while the other tele marketers teased me.

Needless to say, I've had a thing about public restrooms ever since. I'm not one of those guys like that character in AMERICAN PIE
who had to hold it until he went home, but I've certainly had my share of bathroom hang-ups. For the most part, urinating in
Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre toilets was a pretty quick and uneventful experience. You could walk up to the urinal of choice,
unzip just a bit, and go on about your business with minimal interaction. But sometimes, things didn't go so easily.

For you uninitiated women that never got to venture inside a boy's bathroom, you haven't experienced the wonder of a wall of urinals.
Sometimes as many as two on the wall would hang there, just waiting to receive their piss offerings.
Choosing the right urinal said a lot about you. In fact there were rhymes we used to help us figure out exactly which one we wanted
to pee in. One of the most common would have you start naming them off from the left, "COFFEE, TEA, MILKSHAKE, PEE" in a sort of
p-i-s-s-scented "EENIE, MEANIE, MINIE, MOE". Supposedly whatever urinal you chose was what you liked to drink. Lord help the poor kid
with a full bladder that didn't check in advance and haphazardly chose the "PEE" urinal. "Ha! Ha! YOU LIKE DRINKING PEEEEEEEEEEEE!",
was a tough insult to live down. Most of the kids "in the know" would choose milkshake or coffee, if they had their druthers.

Another variation on the theme was to count off, "KING, QUEEN, BOOGER, and MACHINE!" This was particularly handy if you accidentally chose
the "PEE" urinal from the first rhyme, and could correct your taunting party, "No no...I'm using MACHINE!" For obvious reasons, the
"BOOGER" and "QUEEN" urinals were the ones to avoid, but as some of the more sexually aware 5th and 6th graders would point out,
if you chose "QUEEN" it was like you were putting your dick inside of a hot babe!

The real trauma of the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center bathrooms was when you had to take a s-h-i-t. You might as well have s-h-i-t
your pants at work for all the grief you'd get if someone walked in on you. Now, I've sneaked into many a times in the girl’s bathroom
at Paradise canyon Vacation call center in my day
(OK...last month) and I've never understood why the stalls in the girls' rooms had doors on them, but for some reason they were removed
from the boys'. What evil activities did the administration aka Noel think were taking place in them?

Once in my 2nd hour of work, I made the mistake of taking a shit in a stall that not only had no door, but no toilet paper either.
I was stranded there for about 15 minutes before I convinced some poor co worker to grab me some from another stall. When you need
to do the famous "squat walk" at home to grab a new roll, it's OK, but nobody would ever dare getting caught performing it during work.
He held his nose for dramatic effect, and practically threw it at me, as if I was some homeless man asking him to wipe my ass.

When I was in Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bathrooms may have been horrifying to use, but they were actually cool to hang out in.
I mean if they were good enough for Fonzie to use as his office, it was OK for us tele marketers, right? Every once in a while, some
workers would take part in the bizarre ritual called "CRISS CROSS PEE" or "CROSSING SWORDS". While Star Wars was popular, you'd even have
weirdos pretending to be Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader with their lightsabre urine streams. There was even a spell where some workers
would try to pee on your shoe. Suddenly peeing in the stalls instead of the urinals seemed like a much safer idea.

There were any number of pranks to pull off in the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center bathrooms, and nearly all of them involved using wet
paper towels. You could wad up a stack, get them wet, then throw them to the tiled floor and make a pretty large smack. Sinks were pretty
easy to clog up and overflow with them as well, which surely prompted the invention of faucets that turn themselves off. Of course the
greatest bathroom thrill as a worker was to pee on the "OUT OF ORDER DO NOT USE" sign that was occasionally taped on a urinal.

The call center for Paradise canyon Vacation had retarded workers working in the same building as us. They had their own special desks, but ate
lunch in the same lunchroom, and of course used the same bathroom. These unfortunate co workers were always getting made fun of in some kind
of way. I remember going into the bathroom and seeing this little bully tele marketer tell a retarded co worker about twice his size to hold
out his hand so he could smack it. The poor tele marketer was letting him do it over and over again while he cried. I helped a nice co worker
out when I came upon him in tears, holding the large carved wooden key that they used for a bathroom pass, cracked in half. I told him that
the break was pretty clean and if he just laid it down fit together on the manager's desk when he got back to work, someone else might think
they broke it.
When I ran into the co worker later in the week, he thanked me as if I gave him the secret of life.

As I got older and more self conscious at Paradise canyon Vacation, my big fear was pissing next to people. I'd really have to relax and
meditate for a good minute before I could let it out. But it took perfect concentration. I had several times where I'd be ready to pee,
and some other worker would come up next to me, preventing me from finishing. I'd stand there and pretend to pee for about a minute, and
then flush it really quick, so nobody would think I was a psycho who just liked to stand there. Since I drink more heavily as a tele
marketer, I've not found it to be much of a problem anymore.
Though every now and then, even at work, some worker walks in the bathroom with me, and chooses to pee in a stall behind a closed door.

Using bathrooms at the workplace at Paradise Canyon Vacation is an entirely different phenomenon. Where I work, it's actually pretty well
accepted to bring reading material into the john. Everything from The Sports Page of the newspaper, to interesting stories printed off the
internet are handily tucked above the toilet paper rack for tele marketers to read. Some people are pretty uptight about it being
unsanitary, but it never bothered me. In fact, unless I've actually got a hunk of crap on my finger, I never even wash my hands along with
all the other co orkers, unless someone else sees me in there, to keep up
appearances. You don't want to be known as "that guy who doesn't wash" when it's time for company potlucks even though none of the other
workers washed their hands either or never will for that fact.

The big terror of the Paradise Canyon Vacation workplace bathrooms is being identified as the worker who took a monster size noisy smelly
s-h-i-t. If your shoes look anonymous enough under the stall, and nobody saw you walk in, you're usually safe. But lord help you if another
worker sees you walk out after gassing up the place with a deathly fecal fog.

It really bugs me when co workers talk to me while I'm sitting on the toilet. I don't know why but it really creeps the hell out of me.
Not too long ago, I was taking a s-h-i-t, and didn't realize there was Noel the manager sitting in the next stall over. Noel shouted,
"Hey man, I'm right here with ya!" This was kind of freaky, as I didn't recognize the voice, and was truly weirded out by his attempt
at bathroom camaraderie. I remained silent, and slightly scared as he added, "Yep...it's a helluva day!". Not knowing what to even say,
I remained quiet as he went on and on about other nonsensical things, until I finally figured out
that the dude Noel was actually talking on his cell phone while he was taking a dump!

I mean, it's bad enough seeing people walking around stores and driving with cell phones, but who the hell calls up their friends while
they're taking a shit, at work?
At this point, the evil side of me emerged, and I groaned loudly like I just passed an elephant through my sphincter and flushed the
toilet 3 times in a row, just to make sure that whoever this Noel guy was talking to, would realize where the call was really coming
from.

And then there's the utter pandemonium of the men's room at Paradise canyon Vacation call center, where you've got the new pitfall of
puke covered toilets to avoid.
In addition, brave women, sickened by the impossibly long and slow lines in their bathroom are in there with you! And forget about
washing your hands in those sinks,
there's about as much p-i-s-s in those as the urinals.


Of course, once you're married and have kids, any shred of bathroom decency goes out the door. In fact, it's as if there's no door at all.
You know you've got the right woman when she can walk in and brush her teeth while you're taking a c-r-a-p, and not blink an eye.

Anyway, quit talking to me, I'm trying to pee.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Tighter than a bull frog's arse

How cheap is Paradise Canyon Vacation, they are so cheap they
won’t give employees 8 hours a day, and bother people in the
evenings during supper. Even xentel gives employees 8 hours a
a day and the 4 hour option. Paradise canyon vacation is like
a revolving door with employees quitting every day, it is almost
as bad as tele solutions. Except at tele solutions you don't have
to work Sunday nights. Paradise canyon Vacation has no respect
for people they call, they only want their $10, 000 travel membership
fee. If they cared about people they would leave people alone on
Sunday nights. You’re supposed to bring your own paper and pencil or
pen and ruler, the company don't supply that. Workers are always
stealing pens and rulers off other workers desks, Noel don't be so
cheap and buy some pens!!! State of the art equipment, really now,
how about $5 bargain shop phones, which only 1/2 are working
properly, all calls are made by hand. Other call centers are using
computers and usb headsets. Where is the $10, 000 to $15, 000
membership fee going? Either Rod the owner or his manager Noel's
pockets, because there surely is not pens, papers, rulers or
computers with usb headsets. Don't forget the 1/4% sales bonus
incentive, oh my a whole 1/4%, how can they afford this?

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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Toilet Water Cleaner Than Fountain



Winnipeg, Manitoba A Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre employee had a hunch

something was amiss with the company's drinking fountain water. And right he was.

For the sake of his curiosity, he tested the bacteria content at four water fountains

and one toilet to challenge a ban on workers from bringing bottled water to work.

It seems some supervisors were using it to sneak in alcohol.

Guess which was cleaner? It wasn't the water fountains.

He then asked workers where they would prefer to get their water.

That wasn't the fountains, either.

The manager, supervisors and co workers said they had no idea.

Katherine the evening supervisor used Q-tips and petri dishes, swabbing the spigots of four

fountains and sampling one toilet, dunking the cotton in the bowl's center and then dragging

it around the rim for a complete sample.

She took the results to the lab put them under a light to speed up the bacteria's growth.

The petri dishes with fountain water were swarming with bacteria. The sample from the toilet was

clean, probably because the toilets are doused with cleansing chemicals daily.

"I wanted to see the looks on their faces, " Katherine said.

Either allow water bottles back, Katherine urged, or install "down- pour" systems used in office water coolers.

She took her results to the Board of Directors with an eye-opening PowerPoint presentation.

Administrators quickly replaced the spigots and casing at three of the water fountains and custodians gave them

all a thorough cleaning.

More call centres are providing water in lunch rooms now, but the ban on water bottles remains.

"It was a great lesson. We don't always see things in and about the company that are in need of repair,

" said a co worker, adding, "You'd be surprised how clean the water is in a toilet."

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4532 days ago by Samantha_fox19
100 things Paradise Canyon Vacation don't want you to know

A to C

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- $10, 000 for a travel membership!!!

This Travel Company which claims is not a timeshare, but is charging
$10, 000 to $15, 000 for membership privileges for reduced travel
services which you can find just as cheap or cheaper if you
shop around. Cost is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 t0 $60
per month for 20 years. There was one call a tele marketer was
saying that a lady refused to sign the contract, don't we all just
love to sign 20 year contracts and another time Noel the manager
was explaining to a tele marketer that Paradise Canyon Vacation
is like a bank and will finance the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership
fee like a bank loan buying a car. You are getting nothing but a
membership that is all, you still have to pay for any travel expenses.
$3, 500 you could have gone on your vacation, instead it would cost
you $7, 000 to go on that same vacation with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
if you decide to cancel after paying out $3, 500, if not the same
vacation would cost you $13, 500, shopping around is still free.

This is a quote from an actual Paradise Canyon Vacation member,
from a reputable travel site,
if you go to that link, and clik rainman75, you can send him an
email asking more information.

http://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-..._Columbia.html

7. Rainman75
Fort...
posts: 1

Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations
31 March 2011, 1:24
I got suckered and yes it is a scam! Paradise Canyon Vacations "deals"
are no better than anywhere else and in some cases we found Paradise
Canyon Vacation trips to be more expensive then our friends who would
just book through a travel agent.
At the Paradise Canyon Vacation SCAM presentation they constantly tell
you how you can get great rates (like $200/wk) at great places all over
the world without blackout dates. Using this company I've never paid
less than $1300/wk!! The best times to ravel are ALWAYS BLACKED OUT
at Paradise Canyon Vacations!
I travel a lot and I save VERY little using Paradise Canyon Vacations
kerisosh's plug is a direct quote from the sales pitch!
It's all bulls**t and it's bad for you!!

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$200 a week employee vs $10, 000 membership

Paradise Canyon Vacation only pays it's tele marketers $200
per week, $10 an hour for 20 hours, from Sunday to Thursday
6pm to 10pm. Yet a travel membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000.
Noel fires employees every week, "cleaning house" as he calls
it. A few unhappy employees go online and Paradise Canyon
Vacation loses $10, 000 for every person reading the posts.
An employees only makes $9, 600 less than the $10, 000
membership fee.
I have seen callers tell the tele marketers that they read
the bad reviews of people being scammed on trip advisor.
that they want nothing to do with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
Paradise Canyon vacation doesn't realize all the scam sites
available for unhappy screwed over employees, and of course
travel members. If your an ex employee or an unhappy member
or someone who attened the presentation and didn't receive
your free gifts, stand up and post your concern and help
others to not get screwed over also. The best place to post
your complaint would be tripadvisor.ca, ripoff.com,
scaminformer.com, complaintsboard.com, and trailcanada.com,
and also exposeascam.com . Paradise Canyon Vacation can't
delete your posts on these sites, other sites posts
can be deleted so dont waste your time.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- $9700 and go up to $15k

jericho
Senior Member


Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
Posts: 1, 738

... so my wife got a call last week, out of the blue, and to cut
a long story short, we found ourselves attending some kind of
meeting/presentation today at the local golf club.

Paradise Canyon Vacations are apparently headquartered about
Lethbridge (AB) and made it 100% clear they're not a time share
and there was nothing to buy from them... today.

It's essentially a "club"- you pay them x thousand dollars to
join the club, and then you receive vacations/flights/cruises
etc at "net" prices. Some of the examples they gave were
extremely impressive.
It seems they're registered travel agents, so have access to
"net" prices through their sister companies/affiliates- that
include huge holiday condo companies, cruise companies, etc etc.

To be honest, I'm extremely skeptical of this kind of stuff,
and I only went because they promised a $1000 travel cheque.
The presentation was only an hour, so I thought it worth the
risk. However, the sales guy has me very interested...

The club "prices" start at around $9700 and go up to $15k or
so... but you can pay monthly over 20 years and cancel
whenever you want. The basic package, that I'm interested in,
would be around $40 a month.
I've booked an appointment with him to discuss in more detail,
but has anyone every had any experience with this company or
similar ones. For $40 a month, I'm inclined to try it for a
year and see what it's like. We have 2 holidays in mind for
this year and if we can save some money, it'll be worthwhile...

Anyone have any experience with this kind of deal/operation?
My subconscious is screaming it's some kind of scam and it
sounds too good to be true, but at the same time, I'm intrigued...

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- asking for $9-15K.

Cookie
Totally Choco Chip

I had a quick look online and find it strange that they deny being
timeshare when asking for $9-15K. They are also members of
www.rci.com which is a timeshare exchange company.

I have nothing against timeshare, in fact we have owned one in Orlando
for 8 years - we hold title deeds and own it until we decide to sell it.
We enjoy ours and have vacationed at our home resort a few times and
also used it to exchange through RCI to other resorts in Scotland,
Ontario, Massechusettes and are heading to Maine this summer.

I would question paying out between $9-15k fees and not own anything
other than a membership

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 2 quotes come to mind

G77

Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Windsor, ON
Posts: 3, 345

If it's too good to be true...
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Phewwwww...!!!

werlenator
Fort St...
posts: 106
13 June 2011, 22:15

Phewwwww...!!! I just had them call me and I was
going to go to the meeting but some little voice in
my head said "if it's too good to be true
then... you all know the rest!

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 2hr movie $10 - 1 hr presentation $10, 000

Paradise canyon Vacation will call and invite you to a free 60 minute presentation and
tell you how they are not calling to sell you anything, is strictly information only,
you cannot buy nothing at the presentation. The truth is they are calling to sell you
a $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, they won't sell it to you at the presentation, and
they will come to your home and try to scam you for $10, 000.
Now if you went to a 2 hour movie, it will only cost you $10 admission plus popcorn
and soft drinks, snacks etc. But you won't have no salesman coming to your home after
the movie. By the way the membership is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 to $60 a
month for the next 20 years. Just imagine going to a movie theatre and walking out
having to pay $60 a month for the next 20 years, this is what happens if you go to
a 1 hour Paradise canyon Vacation presentation. Choice is yours 2 hour movie $10,
1 hour travel expo presentation $10, 000. Where would you put your money?

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 50 Ways to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam

- A few good men

All it takes is a few people to let others know about the
corruption, lies and greed of big powerful money hungry
corporations. Using underpaid tele marketers to try and
rob the innocent of thousands of dollars with promises
of free gifts and vacations. Paradise Canyon Vacation for
years has been under paying employees with minimum wages
and 1/4% commission bonus and on top of that using scare
tactics like calling the police to protect it's sales if
employees try to let other people online know of the scam.
They don't want callers to know that the membership is
$10, 000 to $15, 000 till the salesman arrives at their home.
These posts were written by jilted employees and people who were
scammed by paradise canyon vacation to help and warn others
not to fall in the same misfortune.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Abby Don't cry for Paradise Canyon Vacation

Abby actually worked for the Paradise canyon Vacation call center a week
the month of October 2011 and yes her real name is Abby, Winnipeg's
Minor Volleyball Association right hand girl who sometimes uses her
left from what we hear she got along very well with Dave, Noel's
right hand man who uses uses his left, was it love at first sight a
right hand man and right hand girl who sometimes both use their left.
She was practically crying running tears like a faucet with her little
red beatty watery eyes telling us how the internet posts is making people
aware of Paradise canyon Vacation and effecting its sales, and that Dave
her right hand man who sometimes uses his left and who by the way is also
Noel's right hand man who also uses his left was going to go to ex employees
homes to tell them to stop posting the inside scoop on Paradise Canyon
Vacation. It's nice to know that Paradise Canyon Vacation is not happy with
just firing employees, now they send Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left with his home made priosn tattoos to scare and bully employees at
their home. So nice to see Abby not worried about the innocent people being scammed
$10, 000 and told the presentation is free till the salesman arrives at their home
with a lenghty contract asking $10, 000 to $15, 000 with $3, 500 down not refundable
and $40 to $60 for the next 20 years, but instead Abby is crying for the crooked
management and its losing sales. Abby also did warn us that Dave Noel's right hand man
who sometimes uses his left told her that Paradise canyon Vacation might be changing
their name soon due to public awareness of their scam .If Abby the the Winnipeg Minor
Volleyball Association right hand girl who sometimes uses her left supports this crooked
time share company, I would stay away from the Minor Volleyball Association and
Paradise Canyon Vacation.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Abducted by a toilet


97 year old Woman freed after being trapped on lavatory for a week


A Winnipeg tele marketer woman from Paradise canyon Vacation call center
has been rescued after she fell into the lavatory and was trapped there
for a week.
The Winnipeg woman employee at the Winnipeg Paradise Canyon vacation call
center, who has not been named, was only found by the emergency services
after a co worker heard her cries for help.
When an ambulance arrived paramedics found her stuck on the lavatory
and unable to get out. She was dehydrated but otherwise unharmed,
despite having spent seven days wedged in the same position.
Reports said the woman, aged 97, was found in the evening on Sunday and had
become stuck the previous Sunday evening.
Eventually she was freed when emergency services broke into the call center
office through a back door and found her in the woman’s bathroom.
"The lady was maneuvered to one side to free her. The door swings inwards
and she had her feet wedged on either side of the lavatory, " a Department
of Community Services spokesman said.
"She was very dehydrated but she was conscious."
A co worker said the woman told him she had been there since 6pm on Sunday.
"To me that meant that evening but she meant last Sunday.
“The co worker had not become concerned earlier because
it was normal to not see the woman or any other tele marketers
taking any calls during the week, he said.
"I'd never even seen her dialing any calls, " he said "but we still
got paid just the same"

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Allgallbladerss eat gaga's aka Sega’a shit

Now that Paradise Canyon Vacation is on line on the internet scam sites.
Employees like Allbladerss and gaga aka Sega come out of the wood word
to protect their jobs, Especially Gaga aka Sega trying to slander
innocent workers whom she accuses of going on line telling the truth,
Noel fired a whole bunch of people like he does every other week,
"cleaning house" as he says, Noel has pissed off many if not hundreds
of ex employees including his own Filipno people. Allgallbalderss and
gaga aka Sega you can both go and eat the shit out of Paradise Canyon
toilets call centre, because your both a piece of shit like the rest
of them, gaga is the biggest turd of them all slandering other employees
but gaga aka Sega didn’t mention that Noel the manager said it was ok for
employees to sell stolen xbox, playstaion games as long as employees got
good prices, funny how gaga aka Sega left that part out . Gaga aka Sega
you bought that stolen brand new laptop with the box and all for $100 from
that fat guy who works out at the gym everyday for $100, who are you to
call eople losers and mental when you yourself is buying stolen laptops at
work .Gaga aka Sega you enjoy trying to scam innocent people out of $10000
dollars, next time you two are on the phone, just tell the truth and tell
the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years
oh and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign, Allgallbladerss
when you can do this, then you can tell people to eat your shit, till then
you and Gaga aka Sega keep licking the urinals at Paradise canyon Vacation
call centre. Sega you came to work for 3 months along with your skinny
anorexic sister who hasn’t eaten in months, dressed up like a fat over weight
model walking down or should we say crashing down a jumbo 7474 runway, but to
be a model Gaga aka Sega you need to lose 100 pounds off your big fat ass.

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- Be Afraid Be Very Afraid

Paradise Canyon Vacations will sound so nice and
pleasing when they call you during supper and apologize
and swear they are not calling to sell you anything,
its strictly information only, you cant buy nothing
at the presentation and of course leave your money at
home, they will ask you to bring your wife or travel
partner, this way you can't walk away so easily from
the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, which is $3, 500
down not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for the
next 20 years, they will try to offer you gifts 2
free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, which nobody
ever receives, Paradise Canyon Vacations hates people
who come for the gifts, the owners call them "roaches",
then why do they offer the gifts and call the people
roaches for attending, there is also the $1, 000 travel
voucher, of course you have to spend $10, 000 to $15, 000
for the membership, membership is all you get, you still
have to pay for the trips, which will cost the same or
more if you shop around. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation scam you.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Bring your own toilet paper

I worked for the call centre at Paradise Canyon vacation in Winnipeg, every week Noel
would bring us in the presentation room and threaten us if we didn't do better he
would "clean house" and fire us. If you saw the bathrooms you would take getting
fired as a blessing. The bathroom floors were never mopped, Noel would just dump
20 gallons of water on the floors and there would be 2 inches of water on the
floors, until it dried. Then we had the ants crawling all over the bathroom
floors, rumor has it that they were Gaga's aka Sega’s crabs, the girl who
slanders employees on scam.com, complaining of smell when in fact the smell was
coming from her own yeast infection. The garbage pails were always full of
employees garbage and doughnuts, that would explain all the ants, the garbage
was emptied a good once a month, the garbage was always 2 feet over the small
garbage pails. As for the bathrooms there was hardly ever any toilet paper,
the employees were using the toilet paper to dry their hands since the paper
towel dispensers were always empty. If you have to go to the bathroom for a
crap you had better remember to bring your own toilet paper from home.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Bullies Employees

Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is alot of favourtism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you dont produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employees only money,
and the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Harasses Seniors

Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors
trying to make them come to a supposedly free
presentation with 2 free gifts which no one
ever receives, they tell seniors it is
information only, leave your money at home,
when in reality the membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000, $3, 500 down and $40 to $60 per
month for the next 20 years, one night Wendy
the Horrible told Noel, "shes a senior 85
and dont travel", the Noel told her to
sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your
$10, 000 even if you have 1 foot in the grave.
They have no compassion or morals, and should
be respecting seniors instead of conning them
and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement
money.

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- Campaign songs

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 00

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 50 Ways to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

Dont cry for me Argentina

Performed by Abby, Minor Volleyball Association
right hand girl who sometimes uses her left
and who was also employed with Paradise Canyon
Vacation in October 2011 for a week.

Dont cry for me Paradise canyon Vacation

It wont be easy to give up $10, 000, I'll think your travel service is strange
When the salesman will try to explain the $3, 500 non refundable deposit and how I will feel
That they will need my $40 to $60 a month for 20 years and love after all that they've done

You won't believe me that travel prices are no cheaper if you shop around
All you will see is a salesman at a presentation you once knew
Although he's dressed up to the nines
At sixes and sevens he will still lie to you

I had to let the presentation happen, I had to see if there was a change
Couldn't stay all my life not traveling and down at heel
Looking out of the window contemplating about writng out that cheque for $10, 000,
with promises of soon being in the sun

So I chose the freedom plus 20 year $15, 000 membership
Running, flying around, hotels and spas trying everything new
But nothing about Paradise Canyon Vacation impressed me at all
I never expected it to

Chorus:

Don't cry for me Paradise canyon Vacation
The truth is I never left you $10, 000
All through my wild days you kept calling during supper
My mad existence made only worse with your presentations
I kept my promise not to become one of your travel members
And if Don't keep your distance, I will call the BBB

And as for fortune you tried to scam from me, and as for fame you promised
I never invited them or your salesman in
Though it seemed to the world that the travel membership is not what I desired

They are illusions just like your phony salesmen
The travel savings are not the solutions they promised to be
The answer was here all the time, not to pick up the phone
I hate you and hope you stop calling me me

Don't cry for me Paradise Canyon Vacation

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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Whos zoomin who?

Who's Zoomin' Who Lyrics
Performed by Abby who worked at the Paradise Canyon
Vacation call center for a week in October 2011, but got
fired and is now with the Minor Volleyball Association.

You walked in the presentation room on the sly
Scopin' for those who love to travel and a $10, 000 membership fee
In the crowd, I caught your sneaky salesman eye
You can't hide your stuff and your lengthy contracts

You came to catch and tried to scam me
You thought I'd be naive and tame
You met your match Paradise Canyon vacation
I beat you at your own game you phoney salesman

(chorus)
Who's zoomin' who, take another look at this empty cheque, tell me baby
Who's zoomin who...oh
Who's zoomin' who, now the fish jumped off the $10, 000 hook
Didn't I baby...Who's zoomin' who (repeat)

Guess you believed the world I would have traveled
Didn't Played by your rules of $3, 500 non refundable
Here stands an experienced girl who wont give you $40 to $60 a month for life
I'm Nobody's fool...

Don't speculate that i'm joining your travel membership
you thought you had me covered, but
I've got your bait from reading on line scam posts
You're bound to be a loser...so go
(chorus)

You think you're smooth with your 2 free gifts
That you can pick and choose
When the time is right to attend your presentations...
But, just look behind, you'll be surprised to find
I'm not going to your presentation tonight...oh
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Paradise Canyon Scam Vacation

- "can you spare $10, 000?'

Paradise Canyon Vacations tele marketers will call you during supper,
offer you 2 free night stay and dinner for 2, for attending an 1 hour
presentation, tell you to leave your wallet at home, strictly
information only, in reality the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000 with
$3, 500 which is non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20 years, which
you don't find out untill the saleasman comes to your home with a lengthy
contract to sign, the tele marketers will tell you "you can't buy nothing
at the presentation" and call you the day before, leave your money at home
but bring a cheque for $10, 000.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- check before you buy

VonRijn - 06-16-2009 08:06

Check with Alberta Consumer Affairs, whether they have a BOND filed with the
government of Alberta.

Sure smells, as you say.

News just yesterday reported that one of Alberta's largest travel agencies -
HAROLD SMITH TRAVEL, with lots of branches - WENT BANKRUPT
stranding loads of suckers.

Only those who used a credit card will get refunds, while those who paid cash
lost all.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

– Corncobs at work

What did tele marketers use when out of toilet paper?


Thank your lucky stars you don't work for Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bucko.

Let me tell you about … corncobs. You may not believe this, but it was once common practice at the
Paradise Canyon Vacation call center to leave a corncob hanging from a string in the bathroom stall
for purposes of personal hygiene. The string, I gather, was to permit the cob to be reused. For
those who were punctilious in these matters, or else blessed with an abundance of corncobs, a box
of disposable cobs might be provided if the tele marketer met his sales goal for the week instead.
On Sundays and Mondays, the cob might be replaced by a mussel shell.
For those tele marketers with 2 or more sales in the evening, paper from discarded books or newspapers
was often provided by management to either of the foregoing. The meteoric growth of the Paradise Canyon
Vacation pamphlets, for instance, is thought to be partly attributable to
the protean nature of its catalogs, which, historians tells us, might serve a family of regular habits
for an entire season. As with the cob, the Paradise Canyon vacation pamphlets would be hung
in the bathroom on a string and pages torn off as needed. It's said the use of coated stock, which was
nonabsorbent, was a source of great consternation to travel members who could afford to join at
$10, 000 to $15, 000. when Paradise Canyon Vacation began printing color pictures in their pamphlets.
Families, in attempting to teach their sons to be cultivated gentlemen, often advised hoarding an
inexpensive volume of Paradise Canyon vacation Travel pamphlets for use in the loo. The idea, of course,
was that while you were sitting there in a contemplative state you'd be able to read
why Paradise canyon Vacations is no cheaper than other travel service and most often you will find more
expensive if you shop around, following which the paper aka travel pamphlet could be put to other ends,
so to speak. It hasn't escaped my notice that my magnum opus, that is Latin for stay away from Paradise
Canyon Vacation, is also well suited for this purpose. Maybe we should perforate the pages, for maximum
comfort and ease because that is all the travel pamphlet is good for.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Cracked Foundations

Jeanherself
New Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1

I have to post. I am from Lethbridge. The real estate
at Paradise Canyon is sliding into the coulees as the
builders did not go down to bedrock on the hills.
Currently you can see 2 of the $350, 000 to $500, 000
house for schedule A sale at $159, 000 and 175, 000.
Schedule A means you are buying as is with no recourse
if the condo/house continues to slip. THESE HOUSES
HAVE CRACKED FOUNDATIONS AS MANY OTHERS HAD AND THERE
IS NO QUICK FIX as I called a structural engineer and
he said they won't touch Paradise due to the numerous
lawsuits. You have to get pilings to go down to bedrock
and each can cost $30, 000 to $50, ooo apiece. You may
need 1 or 4 to stabilize each structure. Go to mls.ca
and get to the Lethbridge listings to view the beautiful
homes on firesale at Paradise Canyon! I looked inmto it
because of the prices. The real estate guys won't even
buy to resale.
PS- The river is the Old Man river not the Milk River.

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4531 days ago by Samantha_fox19
100 things Paradise Canyon Vacation don't want you to know

A to C

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- $10, 000 for a travel membership!!!

This Travel Company which claims is not a timeshare, but is charging
$10, 000 to $15, 000 for membership privileges for reduced travel
services which you can find just as cheap or cheaper if you
shop around. Cost is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 t0 $60
per month for 20 years. There was one call a tele marketer was
saying that a lady refused to sign the contract, don't we all just
love to sign 20 year contracts and another time Noel the manager
was explaining to a tele marketer that Paradise Canyon Vacation
is like a bank and will finance the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership
fee like a bank loan buying a car. You are getting nothing but a
membership that is all, you still have to pay for any travel expenses.
$3, 500 you could have gone on your vacation, instead it would cost
you $7, 000 to go on that same vacation with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
if you decide to cancel after paying out $3, 500, if not the same
vacation would cost you $13, 500, shopping around is still free.

This is a quote from an actual Paradise Canyon Vacation member,
from a reputable travel site,
if you go to that link, and clik rainman75, you can send him an
email asking more information.

http://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-..._Columbia.html

7. Rainman75
Fort...
posts: 1

Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations
31 March 2011, 1:24
I got suckered and yes it is a scam! Paradise Canyon Vacations "deals"
are no better than anywhere else and in some cases we found Paradise
Canyon Vacation trips to be more expensive then our friends who would
just book through a travel agent.
At the Paradise Canyon Vacation SCAM presentation they constantly tell
you how you can get great rates (like $200/wk) at great places all over
the world without blackout dates. Using this company I've never paid
less than $1300/wk!! The best times to ravel are ALWAYS BLACKED OUT
at Paradise Canyon Vacations!
I travel a lot and I save VERY little using Paradise Canyon Vacations
kerisosh's plug is a direct quote from the sales pitch!
It's all bulls**t and it's bad for you!!

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$200 a week employee vs $10, 000 membership

Paradise Canyon Vacation only pays it's tele marketers $200
per week, $10 an hour for 20 hours, from Sunday to Thursday
6pm to 10pm. Yet a travel membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000.
Noel fires employees every week, "cleaning house" as he calls
it. A few unhappy employees go online and Paradise Canyon
Vacation loses $10, 000 for every person reading the posts.
An employees only makes $9, 600 less than the $10, 000
membership fee.
I have seen callers tell the tele marketers that they read
the bad reviews of people being scammed on trip advisor.
that they want nothing to do with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
Paradise Canyon vacation doesn't realize all the scam sites
available for unhappy screwed over employees, and of course
travel members. If your an ex employee or an unhappy member
or someone who attened the presentation and didn't receive
your free gifts, stand up and post your concern and help
others to not get screwed over also. The best place to post
your complaint would be tripadvisor.ca, ripoff.com,
scaminformer.com, complaintsboard.com, and trailcanada.com,
and also exposeascam.com . Paradise Canyon Vacation can't
delete your posts on these sites, other sites posts
can be deleted so dont waste your time.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- $9700 and go up to $15k

jericho
Senior Member


Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
Posts: 1, 738

... so my wife got a call last week, out of the blue, and to cut
a long story short, we found ourselves attending some kind of
meeting/presentation today at the local golf club.

Paradise Canyon Vacations are apparently headquartered about
Lethbridge (AB) and made it 100% clear they're not a time share
and there was nothing to buy from them... today.

It's essentially a "club"- you pay them x thousand dollars to
join the club, and then you receive vacations/flights/cruises
etc at "net" prices. Some of the examples they gave were
extremely impressive.
It seems they're registered travel agents, so have access to
"net" prices through their sister companies/affiliates- that
include huge holiday condo companies, cruise companies, etc etc.

To be honest, I'm extremely skeptical of this kind of stuff,
and I only went because they promised a $1000 travel cheque.
The presentation was only an hour, so I thought it worth the
risk. However, the sales guy has me very interested...

The club "prices" start at around $9700 and go up to $15k or
so... but you can pay monthly over 20 years and cancel
whenever you want. The basic package, that I'm interested in,
would be around $40 a month.
I've booked an appointment with him to discuss in more detail,
but has anyone every had any experience with this company or
similar ones. For $40 a month, I'm inclined to try it for a
year and see what it's like. We have 2 holidays in mind for
this year and if we can save some money, it'll be worthwhile...

Anyone have any experience with this kind of deal/operation?
My subconscious is screaming it's some kind of scam and it
sounds too good to be true, but at the same time, I'm intrigued...

...


Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- asking for $9-15K.

Cookie
Totally Choco Chip

I had a quick look online and find it strange that they deny being
timeshare when asking for $9-15K. They are also members of
www.rci.com which is a timeshare exchange company.

I have nothing against timeshare, in fact we have owned one in Orlando
for 8 years - we hold title deeds and own it until we decide to sell it.
We enjoy ours and have vacationed at our home resort a few times and
also used it to exchange through RCI to other resorts in Scotland,
Ontario, Massechusettes and are heading to Maine this summer.

I would question paying out between $9-15k fees and not own anything
other than a membership

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- 2 quotes come to mind

G77

Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Windsor, ON
Posts: 3, 345

If it's too good to be true...
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Phewwwww...!!!

werlenator
Fort St...
posts: 106
13 June 2011, 22:15

Phewwwww...!!! I just had them call me and I was
going to go to the meeting but some little voice in
my head said "if it's too good to be true
then... you all know the rest!

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 2hr movie $10 - 1 hr presentation $10, 000

Paradise canyon Vacation will call and invite you to a free 60 minute presentation and
tell you how they are not calling to sell you anything, is strictly information only,
you cannot buy nothing at the presentation. The truth is they are calling to sell you
a $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, they won't sell it to you at the presentation, and
they will come to your home and try to scam you for $10, 000.
Now if you went to a 2 hour movie, it will only cost you $10 admission plus popcorn
and soft drinks, snacks etc. But you won't have no salesman coming to your home after
the movie. By the way the membership is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 to $60 a
month for the next 20 years. Just imagine going to a movie theatre and walking out
having to pay $60 a month for the next 20 years, this is what happens if you go to
a 1 hour Paradise canyon Vacation presentation. Choice is yours 2 hour movie $10,
1 hour travel expo presentation $10, 000. Where would you put your money?

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 50 Ways to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam

- A few good men

All it takes is a few people to let others know about the
corruption, lies and greed of big powerful money hungry
corporations. Using underpaid tele marketers to try and
rob the innocent of thousands of dollars with promises
of free gifts and vacations. Paradise Canyon Vacation for
years has been under paying employees with minimum wages
and 1/4% commission bonus and on top of that using scare
tactics like calling the police to protect it's sales if
employees try to let other people online know of the scam.
They don't want callers to know that the membership is
$10, 000 to $15, 000 till the salesman arrives at their home.
These posts were written by jilted employees and people who were
scammed by paradise canyon vacation to help and warn others
not to fall in the same misfortune.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Abby Don't cry for Paradise Canyon Vacation

Abby actually worked for the Paradise canyon Vacation call center a week
the month of October 2011 and yes her real name is Abby, Winnipeg's
Minor Volleyball Association right hand girl who sometimes uses her
left from what we hear she got along very well with Dave, Noel's
right hand man who uses uses his left, was it love at first sight a
right hand man and right hand girl who sometimes both use their left.
She was practically crying running tears like a faucet with her little
red beatty watery eyes telling us how the internet posts is making people
aware of Paradise canyon Vacation and effecting its sales, and that Dave
her right hand man who sometimes uses his left and who by the way is also
Noel's right hand man who also uses his left was going to go to ex employees
homes to tell them to stop posting the inside scoop on Paradise Canyon
Vacation. It's nice to know that Paradise Canyon Vacation is not happy with
just firing employees, now they send Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left with his home made priosn tattoos to scare and bully employees at
their home. So nice to see Abby not worried about the innocent people being scammed
$10, 000 and told the presentation is free till the salesman arrives at their home
with a lenghty contract asking $10, 000 to $15, 000 with $3, 500 down not refundable
and $40 to $60 for the next 20 years, but instead Abby is crying for the crooked
management and its losing sales. Abby also did warn us that Dave Noel's right hand man
who sometimes uses his left told her that Paradise canyon Vacation might be changing
their name soon due to public awareness of their scam .If Abby the the Winnipeg Minor
Volleyball Association right hand girl who sometimes uses her left supports this crooked
time share company, I would stay away from the Minor Volleyball Association and
Paradise Canyon Vacation.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Abducted by a toilet


97 year old Woman freed after being trapped on lavatory for a week


A Winnipeg tele marketer woman from Paradise canyon Vacation call center
has been rescued after she fell into the lavatory and was trapped there
for a week.
The Winnipeg woman employee at the Winnipeg Paradise Canyon vacation call
center, who has not been named, was only found by the emergency services
after a co worker heard her cries for help.
When an ambulance arrived paramedics found her stuck on the lavatory
and unable to get out. She was dehydrated but otherwise unharmed,
despite having spent seven days wedged in the same position.
Reports said the woman, aged 97, was found in the evening on Sunday and had
become stuck the previous Sunday evening.
Eventually she was freed when emergency services broke into the call center
office through a back door and found her in the woman’s bathroom.
"The lady was maneuvered to one side to free her. The door swings inwards
and she had her feet wedged on either side of the lavatory, " a Department
of Community Services spokesman said.
"She was very dehydrated but she was conscious."
A co worker said the woman told him she had been there since 6pm on Sunday.
"To me that meant that evening but she meant last Sunday.
“The co worker had not become concerned earlier because
it was normal to not see the woman or any other tele marketers
taking any calls during the week, he said.
"I'd never even seen her dialing any calls, " he said "but we still
got paid just the same"

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Allgallbladerss eat gaga's aka Sega’a shit

Now that Paradise Canyon Vacation is on line on the internet scam sites.
Employees like Allbladerss and gaga aka Sega come out of the wood word
to protect their jobs, Especially Gaga aka Sega trying to slander
innocent workers whom she accuses of going on line telling the truth,
Noel fired a whole bunch of people like he does every other week,
"cleaning house" as he says, Noel has pissed off many if not hundreds
of ex employees including his own Filipno people. Allgallbalderss and
gaga aka Sega you can both go and eat the shit out of Paradise Canyon
toilets call centre, because your both a piece of shit like the rest
of them, gaga is the biggest turd of them all slandering other employees
but gaga aka Sega didn’t mention that Noel the manager said it was ok for
employees to sell stolen xbox, playstaion games as long as employees got
good prices, funny how gaga aka Sega left that part out . Gaga aka Sega
you bought that stolen brand new laptop with the box and all for $100 from
that fat guy who works out at the gym everyday for $100, who are you to
call eople losers and mental when you yourself is buying stolen laptops at
work .Gaga aka Sega you enjoy trying to scam innocent people out of $10000
dollars, next time you two are on the phone, just tell the truth and tell
the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years
oh and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign, Allgallbladerss
when you can do this, then you can tell people to eat your shit, till then
you and Gaga aka Sega keep licking the urinals at Paradise canyon Vacation
call centre. Sega you came to work for 3 months along with your skinny
anorexic sister who hasn’t eaten in months, dressed up like a fat over weight
model walking down or should we say crashing down a jumbo 7474 runway, but to
be a model Gaga aka Sega you need to lose 100 pounds off your big fat ass.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Be Afraid Be Very Afraid

Paradise Canyon Vacations will sound so nice and
pleasing when they call you during supper and apologize
and swear they are not calling to sell you anything,
its strictly information only, you cant buy nothing
at the presentation and of course leave your money at
home, they will ask you to bring your wife or travel
partner, this way you can't walk away so easily from
the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, which is $3, 500
down not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for the
next 20 years, they will try to offer you gifts 2
free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, which nobody
ever receives, Paradise Canyon Vacations hates people
who come for the gifts, the owners call them "roaches",
then why do they offer the gifts and call the people
roaches for attending, there is also the $1, 000 travel
voucher, of course you have to spend $10, 000 to $15, 000
for the membership, membership is all you get, you still
have to pay for the trips, which will cost the same or
more if you shop around. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation scam you.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Bring your own toilet paper

I worked for the call centre at Paradise Canyon vacation in Winnipeg, every week Noel
would bring us in the presentation room and threaten us if we didn't do better he
would "clean house" and fire us. If you saw the bathrooms you would take getting
fired as a blessing. The bathroom floors were never mopped, Noel would just dump
20 gallons of water on the floors and there would be 2 inches of water on the
floors, until it dried. Then we had the ants crawling all over the bathroom
floors, rumor has it that they were Gaga's aka Sega’s crabs, the girl who
slanders employees on scam.com, complaining of smell when in fact the smell was
coming from her own yeast infection. The garbage pails were always full of
employees garbage and doughnuts, that would explain all the ants, the garbage
was emptied a good once a month, the garbage was always 2 feet over the small
garbage pails. As for the bathrooms there was hardly ever any toilet paper,
the employees were using the toilet paper to dry their hands since the paper
towel dispensers were always empty. If you have to go to the bathroom for a
crap you had better remember to bring your own toilet paper from home.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Bullies Employees

Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is alot of favourtism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you dont produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employees only money,
and the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.

...

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Harasses Seniors

Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors
trying to make them come to a supposedly free
presentation with 2 free gifts which no one
ever receives, they tell seniors it is
information only, leave your money at home,
when in reality the membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000, $3, 500 down and $40 to $60 per
month for the next 20 years, one night Wendy
the Horrible told Noel, "shes a senior 85
and dont travel", the Noel told her to
sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your
$10, 000 even if you have 1 foot in the grave.
They have no compassion or morals, and should
be respecting seniors instead of conning them
and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement
money.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Campaign songs

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 00

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 50 Ways to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

Dont cry for me Argentina

Performed by Abby, Minor Volleyball Association
right hand girl who sometimes uses her left
and who was also employed with Paradise Canyon
Vacation in October 2011 for a week.

Dont cry for me Paradise canyon Vacation

It wont be easy to give up $10, 000, I'll think your travel service is strange
When the salesman will try to explain the $3, 500 non refundable deposit and how I will feel
That they will need my $40 to $60 a month for 20 years and love after all that they've done

You won't believe me that travel prices are no cheaper if you shop around
All you will see is a salesman at a presentation you once knew
Although he's dressed up to the nines
At sixes and sevens he will still lie to you

I had to let the presentation happen, I had to see if there was a change
Couldn't stay all my life not traveling and down at heel
Looking out of the window contemplating about writng out that cheque for $10, 000,
with promises of soon being in the sun

So I chose the freedom plus 20 year $15, 000 membership
Running, flying around, hotels and spas trying everything new
But nothing about Paradise Canyon Vacation impressed me at all
I never expected it to

Chorus:

Don't cry for me Paradise canyon Vacation
The truth is I never left you $10, 000
All through my wild days you kept calling during supper
My mad existence made only worse with your presentations
I kept my promise not to become one of your travel members
And if Don't keep your distance, I will call the BBB

And as for fortune you tried to scam from me, and as for fame you promised
I never invited them or your salesman in
Though it seemed to the world that the travel membership is not what I desired

They are illusions just like your phony salesmen
The travel savings are not the solutions they promised to be
The answer was here all the time, not to pick up the phone
I hate you and hope you stop calling me me

Don't cry for me Paradise Canyon Vacation

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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Whos zoomin who?

Who's Zoomin' Who Lyrics
Performed by Abby who worked at the Paradise Canyon
Vacation call center for a week in October 2011, but got
fired and is now with the Minor Volleyball Association.

You walked in the presentation room on the sly
Scopin' for those who love to travel and a $10, 000 membership fee
In the crowd, I caught your sneaky salesman eye
You can't hide your stuff and your lengthy contracts

You came to catch and tried to scam me
You thought I'd be naive and tame
You met your match Paradise Canyon vacation
I beat you at your own game you phoney salesman

(chorus)
Who's zoomin' who, take another look at this empty cheque, tell me baby
Who's zoomin who...oh
Who's zoomin' who, now the fish jumped off the $10, 000 hook
Didn't I baby...Who's zoomin' who (repeat)

Guess you believed the world I would have traveled
Didn't Played by your rules of $3, 500 non refundable
Here stands an experienced girl who wont give you $40 to $60 a month for life
I'm Nobody's fool...

Don't speculate that i'm joining your travel membership
you thought you had me covered, but
I've got your bait from reading on line scam posts
You're bound to be a loser...so go
(chorus)

You think you're smooth with your 2 free gifts
That you can pick and choose
When the time is right to attend your presentations...
But, just look behind, you'll be surprised to find
I'm not going to your presentation tonight...oh
(chorus)


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Paradise Canyon Scam Vacation

- "can you spare $10, 000?'

Paradise Canyon Vacations tele marketers will call you during supper,
offer you 2 free night stay and dinner for 2, for attending an 1 hour
presentation, tell you to leave your wallet at home, strictly
information only, in reality the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000 with
$3, 500 which is non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20 years, which
you don't find out untill the saleasman comes to your home with a lengthy
contract to sign, the tele marketers will tell you "you can't buy nothing
at the presentation" and call you the day before, leave your money at home
but bring a cheque for $10, 000.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- check before you buy

VonRijn - 06-16-2009 08:06

Check with Alberta Consumer Affairs, whether they have a BOND filed with the
government of Alberta.

Sure smells, as you say.

News just yesterday reported that one of Alberta's largest travel agencies -
HAROLD SMITH TRAVEL, with lots of branches - WENT BANKRUPT
stranding loads of suckers.

Only those who used a credit card will get refunds, while those who paid cash
lost all.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

– Corncobs at work

What did tele marketers use when out of toilet paper?


Thank your lucky stars you don't work for Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bucko.

Let me tell you about … corncobs. You may not believe this, but it was once common practice at the
Paradise Canyon Vacation call center to leave a corncob hanging from a string in the bathroom stall
for purposes of personal hygiene. The string, I gather, was to permit the cob to be reused. For
those who were punctilious in these matters, or else blessed with an abundance of corncobs, a box
of disposable cobs might be provided if the tele marketer met his sales goal for the week instead.
On Sundays and Mondays, the cob might be replaced by a mussel shell.
For those tele marketers with 2 or more sales in the evening, paper from discarded books or newspapers
was often provided by management to either of the foregoing. The meteoric growth of the Paradise Canyon
Vacation pamphlets, for instance, is thought to be partly attributable to
the protean nature of its catalogs, which, historians tells us, might serve a family of regular habits
for an entire season. As with the cob, the Paradise Canyon vacation pamphlets would be hung
in the bathroom on a string and pages torn off as needed. It's said the use of coated stock, which was
nonabsorbent, was a source of great consternation to travel members who could afford to join at
$10, 000 to $15, 000. when Paradise Canyon Vacation began printing color pictures in their pamphlets.
Families, in attempting to teach their sons to be cultivated gentlemen, often advised hoarding an
inexpensive volume of Paradise Canyon vacation Travel pamphlets for use in the loo. The idea, of course,
was that while you were sitting there in a contemplative state you'd be able to read
why Paradise canyon Vacations is no cheaper than other travel service and most often you will find more
expensive if you shop around, following which the paper aka travel pamphlet could be put to other ends,
so to speak. It hasn't escaped my notice that my magnum opus, that is Latin for stay away from Paradise
Canyon Vacation, is also well suited for this purpose. Maybe we should perforate the pages, for maximum
comfort and ease because that is all the travel pamphlet is good for.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Cracked Foundations

Jeanherself
New Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1

I have to post. I am from Lethbridge. The real estate
at Paradise Canyon is sliding into the coulees as the
builders did not go down to bedrock on the hills.
Currently you can see 2 of the $350, 000 to $500, 000
house for schedule A sale at $159, 000 and 175, 000.
Schedule A means you are buying as is with no recourse
if the condo/house continues to slip. THESE HOUSES
HAVE CRACKED FOUNDATIONS AS MANY OTHERS HAD AND THERE
IS NO QUICK FIX as I called a structural engineer and
he said they won't touch Paradise due to the numerous
lawsuits. You have to get pilings to go down to bedrock
and each can cost $30, 000 to $50, ooo apiece. You may
need 1 or 4 to stabilize each structure. Go to mls.ca
and get to the Lethbridge listings to view the beautiful
homes on firesale at Paradise Canyon! I looked inmto it
because of the prices. The real estate guys won't even
buy to resale.
PS- The river is the Old Man river not the Milk River.

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