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ALEX VARONOS - DAVID FLEMING - STAROPOLY - TODHD - MYSTARBRANDERS - MYSTARTV - MYEZTV - VIEWPARTNERS - KELSEY GRAMMER - CORBIN BLEU - ESTARDEALS - THU
1st of Oct, 2011 by User323598
Beware any dealings with ALEX Varonos.



Do your due diligence.



Alex Varonos and David Fleming with Bobby Mattias and quite possibly KELSEY GRAMMER (the celebrity who is known for being "Frasier") - have been implicated in a credit card theft ring - where they use unsuspecting people online to get their credit card information with empty promises.



Kelsey Grammer (OR HIS LEGAL TEAM) if you are not involved - contact this email: [email protected] - because I have evidence of your participation. You want to know what you're up against in this 100 MILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT?



HERE IS ONE ARTICLE ABOUT KELSEY GRAMMER SAYING HE IS NOT INVOLVED WITH TODHD OR STAROPOLY - BUT THAT HE HAD INVESTED 200K - which everyone else has heard 1.2 million...



And of course - supposedly KELSEY GRAMMER (himself) called and spoke to the people of TODHD and STAROPOLY - and told them that the story wasn't true ...

Except... Somehow no one has managed to SEE Kelsey Grammer on video yet... No one has SEEN him speak out to a REPUTABLE source of news that he is involved with TODHD or STAROPOLY - since 2010... No one has seen KELSEY GRAMMER Tweet - since last year...



NO ONE HAS PUBLICLY SEEN KELSEY GRAMMER MAKE A VIDEO FOR STAROPOLY - TODHD - MYEZTV - ESTARDEALS - STARBRANDERS - MYSTARTV or MYEZTV for over a year... OR EVEN TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY SUPPORTING HIM ON THOSE WEBSITES... Strange - eh?



Kelsey Grammer has not PUBLICLY come out to ANY source that he is working for any of those places... Yet Varonos swears he is... so do his people. DO the people of TODHD - realize that VARIETY MAGAZINE has not been paid for the promotion of TODHD - like Alex Varonos promised? Oh wait - he didn't sign anything - so he's not responsible - right?



NO... it doesn't work like that. Varonos promised Variety Magazine money - in exchange for advertising and in exchange for having Lydia Cornell on the red carpet - with cameras from Nelle Paegel. Alex VARONOS does NOT own any studio - nor does he really have access to them - David Fleming has friends who have studio contacts. Ask Alex to PROVE these things - on camera - on documents - on things... he can't...



In fact - ALEX VARONOS can't prove ANYTHING at all... NOT WITHOUT OTHER PEOPLE LYING AND BACKING HIM UP... NO PAPERWORK - NO DOCUMENTS... oh he might be able to show you something - but follow up on it - go all the way back... Asked who paid for things - ask for receipts - find out who paid for websites, domains, llc's, and who has paid for the software they are using... Oh what??? Did I hear it's all free? Wait - you should probably contact the original creators and ASK if it is ok...



OH - and using people's likenesses - or other site information - saying it's ok to copy... What is it that he says: "great men imitate - and copy" ??? SO THAT MAKES IT OK TO STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S HARD WORK? And since he had YOU do it for him - does that make YOU guilty?



But - he's been taking money from people... He's been taking their work... for free - calling them volunteers - promising they will get a big payout in the future...



People - Alex Varonos - along with David Fleming have been conning people a long time. Using Celebrity images to instill trust in the investors - or in people so that they work hard, believing that there will be an eventual payout.



If he has had you work for him - for any length of time - you are NOT a VOLUNTEER - as he tries to brainwash you into thinking. You are an unpaid STAFF member - who is being fed lies about a promised future payment - which you will NEVER see.



The finish line is always moving - the site always changes - and he has OTHER PEOPLE pay for it - and has OTHER people do the work. Alex has been manipulating people for a very long time - and we have over 30 people who are finally standing up and speaking out about it - PLEASE JOIN US.



We are going to stop this man - he is a menace - he creates a CULT LIKE atmosphere and gets people to believe in him. He has literally conned people out of their residences, their money and their trust.



He manipulates people into believing he will deliver on future promises - like:



"You won't have to worry about the future, you will be so rich."

"Don't stop now, do you know how many people have quit before the finish line?"

"We will change America's economy with a BOLD new Economy - Bottom Organized Linear Distribution."

"We will create micro loans - we will have insurance - we will give the underprivileged a way to earn money."

And so many more promises... Don't believe them - they aren't true - and they won't happen. He has taken people's money - and delivered it to others...He has not paid his bills...He has been evicted from his residences...He has lawsuits against him...He has been conning people for a long time... with David Fleming acting as his side kick - garnering trust. The only thing I can't figure out is if KELSEY GRAMMER and CORBIN BLEU know they are being used for this con game... IF not - they should contact me - because otherwise - I'm going to assume you guys know what you were doing.



GEORGE LOPEZ - you are also either a victim - or a willing participant - I have tried to reach you on Twitter - and through your fan base...



The celebrities need to stand up and either be counted as victims - or they are willing parties to this FRAUD and THEFT - and incredible evil. IF YOU ARE CURRENTLY WORKING FOR ALEX VARONOS - AND YOU BELIEVE KELSEY GRAMMER IS SUPPORTING HIM - YOU NEED TO ASK FOR A VIDEO APPEARANCE... YOU NEED TO DEMAND THAT CORBIN BLEU AND KELSEY GRAMMER COME ON VIDEO FOR 20 MINUTES TO THE PUBLIC...You are worth at least 20 minutes of their time --- IF it IS true that YOU are working for them - and if they invested money into ALEX's company - and you're working for Alex... And they expect to get paid out --- then YOU ARE WORKING FOR THEM.YOU NEED TO DEMAND IT... EXPECT IT.
Start asking questions - like - where is the receipt for this.... Prove that you paid for that.... Don't listen to DOUBLE PHONE CALLS - that he brings you into - to prove a point - when everyone is involved - of course they are going to lie to you. ASK FOR THE DOCUMENTATION. FOLLOW THE PAPER TRAIL... GO TO OUTSIDE SOURCES.



IF he says he has a jet plane - ask for the tail numbers - and then look up the ownership... CALL THE OWNERS... IF he says you'll make money - get a signed written contract and have your attorney look at it. IF he says other people are evil - and he is standing up against them - and God has his back - you better start looking for brimstone and fire.



Varonos has used so many victims and left them by the wayside ---- EXPECTING THEM TO NEVER STAND UP AGAINST HIM.



When they leave him - he tells everyone remaining - or new - that the person who left did something bad - or is a bad person... They do drugs... They drink alcohol... They're not good Christians... They broke the law.... They have a bad past... They did this wrong or that wrong... HE HAS MILLIONS OF EXCUSES.



Well - that time is over.
We are now ALL standing up.



IF YOU ARE A FORMER VICTIM - contact



We will get you involved.


WE ARE STANDING UP - and coming back - and we are going to STOP ALEX VARONOS --- with his lies, deceit and fraud. We are stopping him from stealing more from other people - whether he gets them to believe they are only volunteers - or if he tells them it will payout in the future.



ASK YOURSELF - who is getting the money now?


And if he was so great - why hasn't he made it by now - we have documents that show he's been doing this since 2007 - 2008.
STAND UP AND BE HEARD - we will help you.


ADVICE WHEN DEALING WITH THESE PEOPLE:



Have attorneys of your own present, demand signatures, identification, all contracts and fine print, confirm collateral (make sure it belongs to the people who are providing the collateral and that they are aware of the transactions, do not take anyone besides the collateral owner's word on anything because if someone can lie, they can lie very well and will make you believe them)



Make sure all documents are signed in front of you only after your attorneys have combed through every single word and that you see all supporting documents and do your due diligence, following the papertrail and asking where every single product or piece of information came from and ask to see every single document supporting that, including things like software, programs, etc., do not take anyone's word for it, find all copyright information and trace it back to the original creator or owner(s).



I would suggest that you look in many states and research the backgrounds of the individuals involved, including any possible arrest or criminal activity and you should demand you receive any and all promises made to you prior to you making any kind of payment or work of any kind that you provide to anyone.



Should you miss any steps in this, you may find yourself a victim, like so many have already been in this world.



If you are taken to a studio, confirm the ownership of the studio and communicate with many staff members and owners about your intentions, be very vocal about what your plans are to do in the studio and confirm any contracts with the studio owner, having them sign documents, and have your attorneys present with you at all times, do not sign anything without your attorneys, do not listen to promises until they are delivered all the way, do not take partial payment because in some cases you may never see any of the rest.



Do not do any work for free, ever, always request payment up front and do not do any work without the full payment.



Do not give away your contacts and do not promote anything without financial payment ahead of time.



Do not listen to future promises as they usually are not realized. STOP LISTENING TO THE DREAM - AND LOOK AT THE REALITY OF WHAT IS...STOP BELIEVING LIES - NO MATTER HOW BEAUTIFUL THEY ARE...STOP SHELLING OUT MONEY... STOP GIVING AWAY YOUR WORK... STOP BEING A VICTIM... WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS LIKE AND WHAT IT FEELS LIKE - AND HOW HARD IT IS TO GET AWAY FROM IT... WE ARE HERE FOR YOU... Don't let this man get away with stealing any more from people... It is your civic duty to stand up and be heard. Together - we can stop it... We already are in the process...


Join us!
Comments
4259 days ago by LCL
Nelle Paegel is a fraud attorney but since she has never been to trial she conspires with another so call FAKE attorney who has been arrested several times and now kicked out of court in California just look at this and follow all the links:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/richard-loland-lewis/producers/richard-loland-lewis-esq-d-o-2C421.htm Richard Lewis is co-counsel and co-plaintiff has a rap sheet like you would not believe just follow the links and look at the mugshots and what is funny is Nelle knew all about them but wait that is not all they just got sanctioned by the court for $10, 000 and Richard Lewis was served with contempt can anyone spell FRAUDSTERS? Pray for these criminals they need to be forgiven :-)

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