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Gryphon Investment Group Gryphon Investment Consulting Group Gryphon Investment Group $100K Blue Amex Card Scam: The Carlton Saunders House of Cards C
26th of Dec, 2011 by User850384
I never received the Amex cards I ordered for my two clients from Carl Saunders in early and mid-October. Neither did at least 10 other people working under 3 other brokers that I'm aware of. I spoke with Carl several times, and he told me that the things written by Steve Bernola - one of the first Ripoff complaints I read againt Carl - were "lies, all lies." I believed him then. Now I know Steve was telling the truth. If you go to Merchant Circle dot com, you'll see GLOWING reviews about Gryphon Investment Group, now called Gryphon Investment CONSULTING Group LLC. Take a closer look at the pattern of lowercase letters for first and last names, or last names of these people giving testimonials. Look at the spacing after each sentence. And look at the grammar, spelling, and general punctuation. Lots of similarities between them, right? Having dealt with Carl, I now know that these were all written by the same person, not 10 different people with good experiences. Believe the scam complaints!!!! Don't get taken by this guy - or anyone who is selling you a $100,000 Amex card whose processor is Carl Saunders. Carl will lie and tell you these complaints are lies. It's true that sometimes clients get pissed off and falsely mouth off on these forums to get back at a processor. In this case, however, I know by personal experience that the people sharing their experiences are not lying. Carl Saunders - I'm 99.99% sure - is the same person as Gregory Julliay, though he tells you Gregory is a separate entity, owner of "the corporation." "The corporation" has no name. He names other scammers and tells you not to do business with them, do it with him, and tells you stories of clients who've come from scammers to him. He might even give you the number of one or two associates who will swear they got cards from him. He tells you he has tons of investors ready to invest millions in your other projects, just send them to him. He sends you current "proof" of recent email testimonials, all with the same bad grammar, punctuation, spelling, etc. Then he pressures you if you hesitate, telling you other brokers are "go-getters" and submitting tons of clients, or that he will cancel your application. He gives excuses when the deadline for receiving your card comes and goes. He's very available to take your money, but not to follow up weeks later when the deadline is past. After a point, you don't hear back from him at all whether you call, text, or email. Gone - poof. In the wind. At the very least, if you are going to try him out, do not do ANY business except with a credit card. That way, when things don't work out - and they will not - you have legal recourse and can charge back your money. DO NOT do the GreenDot MoneyPak which he offers. I knew not to do it, but against my better judgment went ahead, believing his BS, and got ripped off $2,850. Save yourself the losses. You've been warned.
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3140 days ago by Amexoptimacard
Hello scam informer report readers.My name is greg and i am in fact a real human being, whom is a christian man doing good deeds for people who are less fortunate than my wife and i.The amex credit card program that my wife and i offer has been a complete success and we have been able to do about 14 100, 000 amex credit cards under our corporation.Like most companies we have had our share of bumps in the road and clients have been late in some instances getting there amex credit cards.That is not a bad reflection of us nor gryphon investment consulting group.We have only one broker and that is carl.This post is a complete fabrication of actual facts and my wife and i will not sit back and let lies destroy our reputation nor gryphon investment consulting group.There has been some delays that we have had to fix, reason being 2 people charged 1.6million and never paid there bill thus freezing our corporate accounts until the debt was paid off.Our program is in no way a scam nor is gryphon investment consulting group a scam and can not control situations beyond there business control.These post are full of false claims, and so much defamatory content out of the realm of any real dispute.Fake post like these is their tool to deceive, make false claims etc.Fake lies and post is the most classless, tasteless acts of"malice"to commit slander.Using the internet to defame and slander is a violation of the law. The internet authorities have found that thousands of people are being victimized by False Posting via the internet and these “hidden Companies” that do the posting have to be shut down...Gryphon investment consulting group is not a scam and their clients will continue to get their amex credit cards provided by my wife and i.We are real people and we will stand by gryphon investment consulting group and the products we both offer.This post is a lie and please dont believe it scam informer report readers.Have a safe new year.Greg{owner}
3139 days ago by Gabriel Gomez [broker]
Good day .My name is gabriel and i have been a broker of many programs in the past and even today.I have did business with many people within the united states.Every body has claimed what they can do, how they perform, how great they are.Well like every person who does business they want results.Myself and eight clients did business with gryphon investment and finance group back in july of 2011.Not only did we get the amex credit cards, we also got our credit cleaned up for free. All of my clients have high fico scores now that carl posted real verifiable primary tradelines.I will continue to do business with gryphon investment and finance group for years to come.They produced where others have failed.There is a lot of scams going on in our world, but i can tell you the amex credit card program and credit repair offered by gryphon investment and finance group is not one of them.This post is lie and i would not believe it for a million years, because we got the amex credit cards and each came with 100, 000.Thanks for your time
3135 days ago by Nicole Weber -Importer/Exporte
Hi.My name is nicole and im an importer/exporter of fine asian rugs and expensive hand bags for upscale women clients in the western united states.My sister and i have got two amex credit cards from carl at gryphon investment and finance group last year.I maxed my my card out within the first three days[lol].We have been using my sister's amex credit card to keep our import/export business afloat.The amex credit card program that we went into came at the right time and it was the next best thing for us, besides slice bread and fine impoted wine from italy.We paid him with money pak cards and it was the best investment in ourselves and our company.Take it from us and trust in yourselves that carl can and will perform as needed.We was scammed before with other people and we can attest that carl is not one of those people.My sister and i have 200k within two amex credit cards"well lmine is maxed out now' and there is nothing in the world that can compare with a small investment that has produced great returns.By the way we spoke to greg because i was late on a few payments and he is very real and a strong christian man whom has been married to the same woman for 45yrs.The amex credit card program saved our business and it can save you.Take care.
3135 days ago by Nicole Weber -Importer/Exporte
Hi.My name is nicole and im an importer/exporter of fine asian rugs and expensive hand bags for upscale women clients in the western united states.My sister and i have got two amex credit cards from carl at gryphon investment and finance group last year.I maxed my my card out within the first three days[lol].We have been using my sister's amex credit card to keep our import/export business afloat.The amex credit card program that we went into came at the right time and it was the next best thing for us, besides slice bread and fine impoted wine from italy.We paid him with money pak cards and it was the best investment in ourselves and our company.Take it from us and trust in yourselves that carl can and will perform as needed.We was scammed before with other people and we can attest that carl is not one of those people.My sister and i have 200k within two amex credit cards"well lmine is maxed out now' and there is nothing in the world that can compare with a small investment that has produced great returns.By the way we spoke to greg because i was late on a few payments and he is very real and a strong christian man whom has been married to the same woman for 45yrs.The amex credit card program saved our business.

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