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Paradise canyon vacation Scam
- 2hr movie $10 - 1 hr presentation $10,000
27th of Oct, 2011 by STICKSHIFTINHAND
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 2hr movie $10 - 1 hr presentation $10,000

Paradise canyon Vacation will call and invite you to a free 60 minute presentation and
tell you how they are not calling to sell you anything, is strictly information only,
you cannot buy nothing at the presentation. The truth is they are calling to sell you
a $10,000 to $15,000 membership, they won't sell it to you at the presentation, and
they will come to your home and try to scam you for $10,000.
Now if you went to a 2 hour movie, it will only cost you $10 admission plus popcorn
and soft drinks, snacks etc. But you won't have no salesman coming to your home after
the movie. By the way the membership is $3,500 down not refundable and $40 to $60 a
month for the next 20 years. Just imagine going to a movie theatre and walking out
having to pay $60 a month for the next 20 years, this is what happens if you go to
a 1 hour Paradise canyon Vacation presentation. Choice is yours 2 hour movie $10,
1 hour travel expo presentation $10,000. Where would you put your money?
Comments
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75 things you didn't know about Paradise Canyon Vacation

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- $10, 000 for a travel membership!!!

This Travel Company which claims is not a timeshare, but is charging
$10, 000 to $15, 000 for membership privileges for reduced travel
services which you can find just as cheap or cheaper if you
shop around. Cost is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 t0 $60
per month for 20 years. There was one call a tele marketer was
saying that a lady refused to sign the contract, don't we all just
love to sign 20 year contracts and another time Noel the manager
was explaining to a tele marketer that Paradise Canyon Vacation
is like a bank and will finance the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership
fee like a bank loan buying a car. You are getting nothing but a
membership that is all, you still have to pay for any travel expenses.
$3, 500 you could have gone on your vacation, instead it would cost
you $7, 000 to go on that same vacation with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
if you decide to cancel after paying out $3, 500, if not the same
vacation would cost you $13, 500, shopping around is still free.

This is a quote from an actual Paradise Canyon Vacation member,
from a reputable travel site,
if you go to that link, and clik rainman75, you can send him an
email asking more information.

http://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-..._Columbia.html

7. Rainman75
Fort...
posts: 1

Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations
31 March 2011, 1:24
I got suckered and yes it is a scam! Paradise Canyon Vacations "deals"
are no better than anywhere else and in some cases we found Paradise
Canyon Vacation trips to be more expensive then our friends who would
just book through a travel agent.
At the Paradise Canyon Vacation SCAM presentation they constantly tell
you how you can get great rates (like $200/wk) at great places all over
the world without blackout dates. Using this company I've never paid
less than $1300/wk!! The best times to ravel are ALWAYS BLACKED OUT
at Paradise Canyon Vacations!
I travel a lot and I save VERY little using Paradise Canyon Vacations
kerisosh's plug is a direct quote from the sales pitch!
It's all bulls**t and it's bad for you!!

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- $9700 and go up to $15k

jericho
Senior Member


Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
Posts: 1, 738

... so my wife got a call last week, out of the blue, and to cut
a long story short, we found ourselves attending some kind of
meeting/presentation today at the local golf club.

Paradise Canyon Vacations are apparently headquartered about
Lethbridge (AB) and made it 100% clear they're not a time share
and there was nothing to buy from them... today.

It's essentially a "club"- you pay them x thousand dollars to
join the club, and then you receive vacations/flights/cruises
etc at "net" prices. Some of the examples they gave were
extremely impressive.
It seems they're registered travel agents, so have access to
"net" prices through their sister companies/affiliates- that
include huge holiday condo companies, cruise companies, etc etc.

To be honest, I'm extremely skeptical of this kind of stuff,
and I only went because they promised a $1000 travel cheque.
The presentation was only an hour, so I thought it worth the
risk. However, the sales guy has me very interested...

The club "prices" start at around $9700 and go up to $15k or
so... but you can pay monthly over 20 years and cancel
whenever you want. The basic package, that I'm interested in,
would be around $40 a month.
I've booked an appointment with him to discuss in more detail,
but has anyone every had any experience with this company or
similar ones. For $40 a month, I'm inclined to try it for a
year and see what it's like. We have 2 holidays in mind for
this year and if we can save some money, it'll be worthwhile...

Anyone have any experience with this kind of deal/operation?
My subconscious is screaming it's some kind of scam and it
sounds too good to be true, but at the same time, I'm intrigued...

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- asking for $9-15K.

Cookie
Totally Choco Chip

I had a quick look online and find it strange that they deny being
timeshare when asking for $9-15K. They are also members of
www.rci.com which is a timeshare exchange company.

I have nothing against timeshare, in fact we have owned one in Orlando
for 8 years - we hold title deeds and own it until we decide to sell it.
We enjoy ours and have vacationed at our home resort a few times and
also used it to exchange through RCI to other resorts in Scotland,
Ontario, Massechusettes and are heading to Maine this summer.

I would question paying out between $9-15k fees and not own anything
other than a membership

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 2 quotes come to mind

G77

Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Windsor, ON
Posts: 3, 345

If it's too good to be true...
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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Phewwwww...!!!

werlenator
Fort St...
posts: 106
13 June 2011, 22:15

Phewwwww...!!! I just had them call me and I was
going to go to the meeting but some little voice in
my head said "if it's too good to be true
then... you all know the rest!

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 2hr movie $10 - 1 hr presentation $10, 000

Paradise canyon Vacation will call and invite you to a free 60 minute presentation and
tell you how they are not calling to sell you anything, is strictly information only,
you cannot buy nothing at the presentation. The truth is they are calling to sell you
a $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, they won't sell it to you at the presentation, and
they will come to your home and try to scam you for $10, 000.
Now if you went to a 2 hour movie, it will only cost you $10 admission plus popcorn
and soft drinks, snacks etc. But you won't have no salesman coming to your home after
the movie. By the way the membership is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 to $60 a
month for the next 20 years. Just imagine going to a movie theatre and walking out
having to pay $60 a month for the next 20 years, this is what happens if you go to
a 1 hour Paradise canyon Vacation presentation. Choice is yours 2 hour movie $10,
1 hour travel expo presentation $10, 000. Where would you put your money?

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 50 Ways to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam

- A few good men

All it takes is a few people to let others know about the
corruption, lies and greed of big powerful money hungry
corporations. Using underpaid tele marketers to try and
rob the innocent of thousands of dollars with promises
of free gifts and vacations. Paradise Canyon Vacation for
years has been under paying employees with minimum wages
and 1/4% commission bonus and on top of that using scare
tactics like calling the police to protect it's sales if
employees try to let other people online know of the scam.
They don't want callers to know that the membership is
$10, 000 to $15, 000 till the salesman arrives at their home.
These posts were written by jilted employees and people who were
scammed by paradise canyon vacation to help and warn others
not to fall in the same misfortune.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Abducted by a toilet


97 year old Woman freed after being trapped on lavatory for a week


A Winnipeg tele marketer woman from Paradise canyon Vacation call center
has been rescued after she fell into the lavatory and was trapped there
for a week.
The Winnipeg woman employee at the Winnipeg Paradise Canyon vacation call
center, who has not been named, was only found by the emergency services
after a co worker heard her cries for help.
When an ambulance arrived paramedics found her stuck on the lavatory
and unable to get out. She was dehydrated but otherwise unharmed,
despite having spent seven days wedged in the same position.
Reports said the woman, aged 97, was found in the evening on Sunday and had
become stuck the previous Sunday evening.
Eventually she was freed when emergency services broke into the call center
office through a back door and found her in the woman’s bathroom.
"The lady was maneuvered to one side to free her. The door swings inwards
and she had her feet wedged on either side of the lavatory, " a Department
of Community Services spokesman said.
"She was very dehydrated but she was conscious."
A co worker said the woman told him she had been there since 6pm on Sunday.
"To me that meant that evening but she meant last Sunday.
“The co worker had not become concerned earlier because
it was normal to not see the woman or any other tele marketers
taking any calls during the week, he said.
"I'd never even seen her dialing any calls, " he said "but we still
got paid just the same"

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Allgallbladerss eat gaga's aka Sega’a shit

Now that Paradise Canyon Vacation is on line on the internet scam sites. Employees like Allbladerss
and gaga come out of the wood word to protect their jobs, Especially Gaga trying to slander innocent
workers whom she accuses of going on line telling the truth, Noel fired a whole bunch of people like
he does every other week, "cleaning house" as he says, Noel has pissed off many if not hundreds of
ex employees including his own Filipno people. Allgallbalderss and gaga aka Sega you can both go and
eat the shit out of Paradise Canyon toilets call centre, because your both a piece of shit like the
rest of them, gaga is the biggest turd of them all slandering other employees but gaga aka Sega didn’t
mention that Noel the manager said it was ok for employees to sell stolen xbox, playstaion games as
long as employees got good prices, funny how gaga aka Sega left that part out . Gaga aka Sega you
bought that stolen brand new laptop with the box and all for $100 from that fat guy who works out
at the gym everyday for $100, who are you to call eople losers and mental when you yourself is buying
stolen laptops at work .Gaga aka Sega you enjoy trying to scam innocent people out of $10, 000 dollars,
next time you two are on the phone, just tell the truth and tell the people its $3, 500 down not
refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years oh and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign,
Allgallbladerss when you can do this, then you can tell people to eat your shit, till then you and
Gaga aka Sega keep licking the urinals at Paradise canyon Vacation call centre. Sega you came to
work for 3 months [along with your skinny anorexic sister who hasn’t eaten in months] as you said
dressed like a model walking down a runway, but to be a model Gaga aka Sega you need to lose 100
pounds off your big fat ass.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Be Afraid Be Very Afraid

Paradise Canyon Vacations will sound so nice and
pleasing when they call you during supper and apologize
and swear they are not calling to sell you anything,
its strictly information only, you cant buy nothing
at the presentation and of course leave your money at
home, they will ask you to bring your wife or travel
partner, this way you can't walk away so easily from
the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, which is $3, 500
down not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for the
next 20 years, they will try to offer you gifts 2
free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, which nobody
ever receives, Paradise Canyon Vacations hates people
who come for the gifts, the owners call them "roaches",
then why do they offer the gifts and call the people
roaches for attending, there is also the $1, 000 travel
voucher, of course you have to spend $10, 000 to $15, 000
for the membership, membership is all you get, you still
have to pay for the trips, which will cost the same or
more if you shop around. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation scam you.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam
- Bring your own toilet paper

I worked for the call centre at Paradise Canyon vacation in Winnipeg, every week Noel
would bring us in the presentation room and threaten us if we didn't do better he
would "clean house" and fire us. If you saw the bathrooms you would take getting
fired as a blessing. The bathroom floors were never mopped, Noel would just dump
20 gallons of water on the floors and there would be 2 inches of water on the
floors, until it dried. Then we had the ants crawling all over the bathroom
floors, rumor has it that they were Gaga's aka Sega’s crabs, the girl who
slanders employees on scam.com, complaining of smell when in fact the smell was
coming from her own yeast infection. The garbage pails were always full of
employees garbage and doughnuts, that would explain all the ants, the garbage
was emptied a good once a month, the garbage was always 2 feet over the small
garbage pails. As for the bathrooms there was hardly ever any toilet paper,
the employees were using the toilet paper to dry their hands since the paper
towel dispensers were always empty. If you have to go to the bathroom for a
crap you had better remember to bring your own toilet paper from home.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Bullies Employees

Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is alot of favourtism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you dont produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employees only money,
and the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Harasses Seniors

Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors
trying to make them come to a supposedly free
presentation with 2 free gifts which no one
ever receives, they tell seniors it is
information only, leave your money at home,
when in reality the membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000, $3, 500 down and $40 to $60 per
month for the next 20 years, one night Wendy
the Horrible told Noel, "shes a senior 85
and dont travel", the Noel told her to
sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your
$10, 000 even if you have 1 foot in the grave.
They have no compassion or morals, and should
be respecting seniors instead of conning them
and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement
money.

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Paradise Canyon Scam Vacation

- "can you spare $10, 000?'

Paradise Canyon Vacations tele marketers will call you during supper,
offer you 2 free night stay and dinner for 2, for attending an 1 hour
presentation, tell you to leave your wallet at home, strictly
information only, in reality the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000 with
$3, 500 which is non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20 years, which
you don't find out untill the saleasman comes to your home with a lengthy
contract to sign, the tele marketers will tell you "you can't buy nothing
at the presentation" and call you the day before, leave your money at home
but bring a cheque for $10, 000.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

– Corncobs at work

What did tele marketers use when out of toilet paper?


Thank your lucky stars you don't work for Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bucko.

Let me tell you about … corncobs. You may not believe this, but it was once common practice at the
Paradise Canyon Vacation call center to leave a corncob hanging from a string in the bathroom stall
for purposes of personal hygiene. The string, I gather, was to permit the cob to be reused. For
those who were punctilious in these matters, or else blessed with an abundance of corncobs, a box
of disposable cobs might be provided if the tele marketer met his sales goal for the week instead.
On Sundays and Mondays, the cob might be replaced by a mussel shell.
For those tele marketers with 2 or more sales in the evening, paper from discarded books or newspapers
was often provided by management to either of the foregoing. The meteoric growth of the Paradise Canyon
Vacation pamphlets, for instance, is thought to be partly attributable to
the protean nature of its catalogs, which, historians tells us, might serve a family of regular habits
for an entire season. As with the cob, the Paradise Canyon vacation pamphlets would be hung
in the bathroom on a string and pages torn off as needed. It's said the use of coated stock, which was
nonabsorbent, was a source of great consternation to travel members who could afford to join at
$10, 000 to $15, 000. when Paradise Canyon Vacation began printing color pictures in their pamphlets.
Families, in attempting to teach their sons to be cultivated gentlemen, often advised hoarding an
inexpensive volume of Paradise Canyon vacation Travel pamphlets for use in the loo. The idea, of course,
was that while you were sitting there in a contemplative state you'd be able to read
why Paradise canyon Vacations is no cheaper than other travel service and most often you will find more
expensive if you shop around, following which the paper aka travel pamphlet could be put to other ends,
so to speak. It hasn't escaped my notice that my magnum opus, that is Latin for stay away from Paradise
Canyon Vacation, is also well suited for this purpose. Maybe we should perforate the pages, for maximum
comfort and ease because that is all the travel pamphlet is good for.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Cracked Foundations

Jeanherself
New Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1

I have to post. I am from Lethbridge. The real estate
at Paradise Canyon is sliding into the coulees as the
builders did not go down to bedrock on the hills.
Currently you can see 2 of the $350, 000 to $500, 000
house for schedule A sale at $159, 000 and 175, 000.
Schedule A means you are buying as is with no recourse
if the condo/house continues to slip. THESE HOUSES
HAVE CRACKED FOUNDATIONS AS MANY OTHERS HAD AND THERE
IS NO QUICK FIX as I called a structural engineer and
he said they won't touch Paradise due to the numerous
lawsuits. You have to get pilings to go down to bedrock
and each can cost $30, 000 to $50, ooo apiece. You may
need 1 or 4 to stabilize each structure. Go to mls.ca
and get to the Lethbridge listings to view the beautiful
homes on firesale at Paradise Canyon! I looked inmto it
because of the prices. The real estate guys won't even
buy to resale.
PS- The river is the Old Man river not the Milk River.

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Paradise canyon vacation Scam

- Dave Breeding Turkeys

Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left is now enjoying the outdoors
chasing male turkeys while doing his imitation
turkey mating call. To help supplement his
income Dave has been helping turkeys to breed,
since he's been saving his right hand to assist
Noel, why not make extra money using his left
hand to save the turkey population. so next time
your having a family thanks giving dinner and your
about to say grace before carving the turkey say a
little prayer and thank Dave for without his left
hand there would be no turkey on the table, and if
Paradise canyon Vacation calls during supper tell
the caller to tell Dave that you got better things
to do with your right hand than write them a cheque
for $10, 000.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Dave harasses ex-employees

Thursday October 20, 2011 - 6:25pm, 2011 our cousin receives not one
but 2 calls from Dave trying to disguise himself as "James", Noel's
right hand man who sometimes uses his left, trying to question our
cousin about internet blogs. *57 was used and the number traced to
the police station, and the call was more than likely made from
Paradise canyon Vacation call center, during working hours. It's
not enough that Noel tried to use scare tactics and tell our cousin
that the police will be wafting when he gets home the night he went
to pick up his final cheque, our family called the police station and
Noel lied, the police said the internet is free speech. Noel fired
thousands of people even his own Filipino people, Dave go and harass
Noel's Filipino people, we are not Filipinos, Dave go and call Brian
since he was the one who said in the meeting that Noel was protecting
some people who had less sales than him, Brian was angry about being
fired, and he is Filipino who worked with Noel for 4 years. Is this
the kind of company you want to hand over $10, 000 to $15, 000 for a
travel membership, a company who harasses employees after firing
them, Noel could have given our cousin trade show sheets but he was
out to fire our cousin, for asking Dave to get his antivirus program
back, Noel was very pissed the night he returned the borrowed software,
he hasn't talked to our cousin since and kept shitting on him, that’s
the thanks you get for borrowing your boss who asked for the software,
never trust anyone from work, especially your boss. If this is how they
treat their employees just imagine how they treat their members. Don't
let Dave or Noel get your hard earned money, you will get nothing for
your $10, 000 and it is $3, 500 not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for
20 years and the prices are no cheaper than other travel agents or if
you shopped around for yourself.
Again October 21, 2011 7:28pm Dave calls back trying to use scare tactics
This time Dave clears his throat not knowing what to say, we believe he
was drunk putting back a few cold ones. Again *57 was used and the number
traced, keep harassing our cousin Dave we will keep tracking and tracing
your calls. This is Paradise Canyon Vacation harassing ex employees.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Dave right hand man with 2 left feet

Noel has a right hand man named Dave who sometimes uses his
left. Some of us worked with Dave before at Tele Solutions,
where 1/2 of the closing supervisors collecting credit card
information had served jail time, and this is where Dave
came from, and he seems to blend right in very nicely with
his prison tattoos. Our cousin used to work with Dave on
Saturday mornings at Tele Solutions and he remembers Dave
coming in to work drunk like a skunk, and got many leads
but once he sobered up he couldn’t do nothing, useless as
tits on bull. Dave comes in to work every other week with
a black eye from bar fights, or misses days here and there
when he's on a drinking binge. Is this the best that Noel
can do for a right hand man who sometimes uses his left.
If this is the quality of supervisors we can imagine the
quality of the salesmen at the presentations, the sales
pitch should be
"leave your money at home but bring a case of two four".

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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Dave still Harasses ex employees

6:10pm, October 24, 2011, Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his
left, is still harassing our cousin and again *57 was used to trace the call
to the police, doesn't the employees at Paradise Canyon Vacation have nothing
better to do than thier supervisor to call and harass ex employees and with
scare tactics and saying "you better quit that internet shit", Dave get a
real job like working in a tattoo parlor and get real tatto not home made
prison tattoos, Noel fired many Filipinos and Brian was very upset go and
call Brian, leave innocent people alone. I hope people reading this will
think twice about giving Paradise VCanyon Vacation $10, 000 to $15, 000 for
nothing more than a membership for prices no cheaper than if they shopped
around. For your information they don't tell you its $10, 000 till the
salesman gets to your home, don't beleive the "you can't buy nothing at the
presentation, it's strictly information only, and leave your money at home"
There are better things you can do with $10, p000 to $15, 000 than let Paradise
Canyon Vacation scam you out of it.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Dave to harass ex employees at home

We found out today Oct 26, 2011 that an ex female employee of
Paradise Canyon Vacation in Winnipeg who worked and quit the
same week of Oct 16-22, 2011 told our family that Dave was
threatening to go to our cousin's house, this is beyond
harassment, Noel fired alot of people, and some people are
fighting back on line, letting the truth be known. Right now
Dave is harassing our cousin with 3 phone calls, all 3 calls
*57 was pressed and the call traced back to the Winnipeg
police department. If Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left comes around our cousin's house, our family will
call his parole officer, and Davecan go back to prison and
get a few more home made oops prison made tattoos.

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3316 days ago by STICKSHIFTINHAND
75 things you didn't know about Paradise Canyon Vacation

Part 2/4 [21-40]

Paradise Canyon vacation Scam


- Employee asleep on toilet


Employee asleep for two days on call center toilet

Published: 2011 Oct 06 7:26pm

A 47-year-old man was asleep on Paradise Canyon Vacation call center toilet

for one and a half days before being discovered by staff, it has emerged.

The man had been hired as a casual tel;e marketer 26th October 2011, suffering

from pains in the chest and abdomen from stressful calls. Co workers gave him samples

of thier calls, and decided he be ok for the rest of the night.

But Noel came to his desk at 7:30pm to give him his booking results, his chair was empty

and the worker had disappeared.

Staff searched for the man in the immediate vicinity of the the call center, but did not find him.

Supervisors assumed that the man had left the call center, so Noel discharged him. It was only

nearly two days later that the man was found in a toilet

adjacent to Noel's office. He appeared to have gone there on his own, locked himself in the

toilet and fell aleep.

"He had been there for one and a half days, " said Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes

uses his left acting as a spokesman to The Local.

Franzén said she could not reveal whether doctors had considered the man's condition to be

life-threatening, but she did say that he had not been confused.

"If a tele marketer is in a confused state then we keep an eye on them, but that was

not judged to be the case here."

Dave said that a more thorough search of the call center for the man had not been

judged necessary.

"We are a very big call center, and it's not unusual for workers to just leave.

We didn't look for him because he was not confused."

The call center said in the future that bathroom passes will be assigned.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Employee Theft

Paradise canyon Vacation tele marketers are very good in convincing you
that the presentation is free and leave your money at home, and if you
Haven’t guess by now, it is a scam. The membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000
but they don’t tell you that till the salesman/woman comes to your home.
Theft is a daily thing at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre, people
having cell phones stolen is very popular, that is because everyone is on
their cell phones surfing the internet playing games, so there is plenty
of cell phones to be stolen. One person even had his bicycle seat stolen
from his very desk, you can’t leave anything down. The manager Noel
actually encourages stealing among his employees, when questioned about
Loren selling stolen Xbox, play station pc games and DVD movies, Noel's
reply was that is ok as long as employees get good prices, and Dave,
Noels right hand man who sometimes uses his left is Loren's best
customer, we all also have Rob selling stolen $200 sports jerseys for
$40, and his biggest buyer is Ozzie a tall skinny black man from Mts
on Osbourne in Winnipeg, buying a jersey a week, now we also have shady
crooked Mts employees trying to scam you out of $10, 000.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Employees selling and buying stolen goods

Paradise Canyon Vacation employees for years have been enjoying
the benefits of buying stolen goods during work time on
company property. When Noel the manager was approached about
Loren selling Xbox, play station, pc games and blue ray movies,
Noel said it was ok as long as employees got good prices.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Selling stolen laptop for $100

Where else but at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre can you buy a
brand new stolen laptop for $100 still in the box. It happened with
a tele marketer called Sega, who used to come in everyday dressed
like she was a model walking down the runway. Rather than going to
the store to buy a new laptop she took advantage of Paradise Canyon
vacation employee benefits, and purchased a brand new stolen laptop
for $100, off one of the tele marketers, a big fat guy who was going
to the gym everyday so said Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left. When Noel the manager was confronted about Loren selling
stolen Xbox and DVD movies, Noel said it was ok as long as employees got
good prices Not only can Sega buy stolen brand new laptops still in
the box, she can also buy Xbox, play station, pc games and DVD movies from
Loren, are his stolen movies any good, ask Dave Noel's right hand man who
sometimes uses his left, Dave is Loren's biggest customer. Stolen laptops
Xbox games and movies is not all that Paradise Canyon Employees benefits
entitles them too, they can also purchase stolen $200 sports jerseys from
Rob for $40, ask Ozzie an Mts Osbourne Winnipeg call centre employee,
he's been buying stolen sports jerseys one of every week for months, and
wears his stolen jerseys with pride. You too can receive employee benefits
and buy stolen laptops, Xbox games, DVD movies and stolen sports jerseys,
all you need is a desire to lie to people about free presentations and
scam people out of $10, 000 for memberships.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Selling stolen sports jerseys

Along with scamming people out of $10, 000 and lying
about free presentations and 2 free gifts. Paradise
Canyon Vacation tele-marketers can get sports jerseys
valued at $200 for $40 to $60, thanks to Rob a tele
marketer in the call centre who has been for years
moon lighting selling stolen jerseys. Is the quality
good? Well just ask Ozzie a tall black man from Mts
on Osbourne in Winnipeg, Noels pet tele marketer
who along with Tyler also gets very easy expo sheets
while the rest of the workers have calls 5 times as
hard. Ozzie has been buying stolen jerseys at the rate
of 1 a week and is very proud to wear his hot jerseys,
Ozzie can afford to buy one very week because he brags
how he's making $20 an hour and his girlfriend is
making $35, you think with that kind of money he would
buy store bought sport jerseys. Just goes to show where
your money goes when you pay your Mts bill. As for Paradise
Canyon Vacation, they give it the thumbs up, because when
Noel was approached about the situation he said it was ok
that Loren sells stolen Xbox, placation, pc games and movies
as long as the employees get good prices. Is this where the
$10, 000 membership fee goes, to pay crooked employees. Dave,
Noels right hand man who sometimes uses his left is
Loren's best customer. If this is the how the call centre
is running I hate to see the 1 hour presentations.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Selling stolen Xbox games

Along with scamming people out of $10, 000 and lying
about free presentations and 2 free gifts. Paradise
Canyon Vacation tele-marketers can get net prices
on all their favorite Xbox, play station and wi games,
not to mention DVD HD and blue ray movies. All thanks to
Loren one of their top bookers. When Loren is not
behind bars and at work, he is selling Xbox games and pc
games to his top buyer, Dave who is Noels right hand man
and sometimes he uses his left. Paradise Canyon gives
all this the thumbs up, because when Noel was approached
concerning the situation he said "it's ok as long as
employees get good prices", now would you join and
pay $10, 000 membership if the employees and right hand
man are all buying stolen DVDs. They should be offering
these DVD movies and Xbox games at the presentations at
employee prices, along with the dinner for 2 and the 2
free hotel night stay.

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22-Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Employee Theft

Paradise canyon Vacation tele marketers are very good in convincing you
that the presentation is free and leave your money at home, and if you
Haven’t guess by now, it is a scam. The membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000
but they don’t tell you that till the salesman/woman comes to your home.
Theft is a daily thing at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre, people
having cell phones stolen is very popular, that is because everyone is on
their cell phones surfing the internet playing games, so there is plenty
of cell phones to be stolen. One person even had his bicycle seat stolen
from his very desk, you can’t leave anything down. The manager Noel
actually encourages stealing among his employees, when questioned about
Loren selling stolen Xbox, play station pc games and DVD movies, Noel's
reply was that is ok as long as employees get good prices, and Dave,
Noels right hand man who sometimes uses his left is Loren's best
customer, we all also have Rob selling stolen $200 sports jerseys for
$40, and his biggest buyer is Ozzie a tall skinny black man from Mts
on Osbourne in Winnipeg, buying a jersey a week, now we also have shady
crooked Mts employees trying to scam you out of $10, 000.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Enormous Upfront Fee

kimcf
New Member

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1

Default Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations...
My friends just recently purchased a membership with Paradise Canyon Vacations,
so I thought I would check them out.

This Travel Club sounds the same as every other club out there... enormous
upfront fee and monthly charges for services that are offered on the internet
for free. I cannot believe that there are still Travel Clubs out there with
the introduction of the internet.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- charge up to $15k

el richo
That's what she said!!!

Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Oobie doobie doobie, oobie doobie doobie, woop man, woop man, nick knack noo.


So they offer discounts on holidays, yet charge you up to $15k for the privilege? Sounds
awesome

I'll lend you my bargepole if you pay $4k for postage.

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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam

- Female Tele marketer f-a-r-t-s

Tele Marketer Wendy Suspended For Passing Gas

Girl's Family Says Punishment Too Steep

Winnipeg, Manitoba -- A chubby female tele marketer has been suspended
from work because she intentionally passed gas, according to
Paradise Canyon Vacation management.
Noel reported that Wendy a veteran fat tele marketer was suspended from
Paradise canyon Vacation call center under a company rule against
disruptive behavior and eating beans in the lunchroom.
Supervisors said Wendy repeatedly passed gas to make Ozzie laugh, but
instead Ozzie past out from the stench. Dave, Noel's right hand man
who sometimes uses his left had to give Ozzie mouth to mouth
resuscitation with an occasional slip of the tongue.
They said the smell also made it difficult to breathe making the other
tele marketers and co workers turn blue in the face and gasping for air.
Noel said that when he heard Wendy farting it was like a wild herd of
elephants trumping and blowing their trunks.
Wendy's family said their daughter isn't perfect and they're appealing
the suspension, saying the manager Noel went too far with its punishment.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Fifty ways to leave your lover

50 Ways to Leave your Lover or lose $10, 000

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

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50 Ways to Leave your Lover, or to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commission
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Gaga aka Sega has crabs or is that dinner for 2

Now that the truth comes out about Paradise Canyon Vacation employees selling stolen Xbox,
play station pc games and blue ray movies, the employees like Gaga aka Sega come out of
the wood word to protect their jobs, Gaga aka Sega you can go and eat the shit out of
Paradise Canyon toilets call centre, because you’re a piece of shit like the rest of
them, I sat next to this person you’re trying to slander and he was a perfect gentleman,
and even though he rode to work, he changed his clothes and brought spare clothes, as for
mental the only mental people is you for protecting Paradise Canyon Vacation it's funny
Gaga aka Sega how you didn’t mention the stolen sports jerseys and stolen Xbox games and
blue ray movies and when our cousin's bike seat was stolen he mentioned to Noel about
Loren selling stolen movies and Xbox games and Noel the manager told our cousin it was
ok as long as employees got good prices, Gaga aka Sega why did you leave out employees
selling and buying stolen goods Gaga aka Sega how much did Noel pay you to slander our
cousin, or is Gaga really Noel impersonating an employee to try and save his company
and sales Gaga aka Sega you can lick my ass and let me crap in your mouth, look at you
trying to scam innocent people out of $10, 000 dollars, next time you’re on the phone,
just tell the truth and tell the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month
for 20 years oh and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign, when you can do
this, then you can talk shit about people, till then keep licking the urinals at Paradise
Canyon Vacation call centre. You didn’t quit gaga Noel fired your ass because you couldn’t
produce bookings, and Gaga aka Sega those ants in the ladies bathroom floor, those are not ants,
those were your crabs, were those crabs the free dinner for two you were offering callers on the
phone to attend the free presentation, Gaga aka Sega go see a doctor you skank.

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Paradise canyon Vacation Scam

- Give me Noel NOW!!!

When Paradise Canyon Vacation calls, demand to speak to
Noel, he is the manager, and do not take no for an answer.
They can call and harass people during supper every night
with promises of supposedly free gifts. As for the do not
call list won't do nothing, because the tele marketers
dial all the numbers by hand. The call list may never even
be handed in since people come and go daily. When you speak
to Noel tell Noel you know that the membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000 and that you will not give him $3, 500 down non
refundable and then another $40 to $60 a month for the next
20 years. Noel and his boss Rod at the Calgary office hate
people coming to the presentation just for the free gifts,
they call them "roaches". Noel even fires his own people
Filipinos if they don't give him enough leads, even Brian a
Filipino who was with Noel for 4 years. The man is mean,
heartless and cares only about money, and we think he cares
about Edna a short Filipino we call Snooki who has been with
him for years, and is given special rebook sheets and has
Debbie and Catherine wiping her ass finishing up her calls
with confirmation leads. Noel back stabs his own Filipino
people but kisses Tylers and Ozzzie's asses, one night Noel
gave Ozzie 2 expo sheets while other workers had to do all
the hard calls, and Tyler gets expo sheets every night, we
wonder whose nose is browner Noels, Tyler's or Ozzie's. How
can you trust a company whose manager turns on his own people
in the name of greed and money.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Harasses Seniors


Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors
trying to make them come to a supposedly free
presentation with 2 free gifts which no one
ever receives, they tell seniors it is
information only, leave your money at home,
when in reality the membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000, $3, 500 down and $40 to $60 per
month for the next 20 years, one night Wendy
the Horrible told Noel, "shes a senior 85
and dont travel", the Noel told her to
sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your
$10, 000 even if you have 1 foot in the grave.
They have no compassion or morals, and should
be respecting seniors instead of conning them
and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement
money.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Bullies Employees

Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is a lot of favoritism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you don’t produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employee’s only money,
and the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Hat Trick

A hat trick in sports is when a player gets 3 goals in a game
at Paradise Canyon Vacation a hat trick is when you get called
3 times in the same night. Promising you gifts to attend the
presentation and reassuring you that its not time share and
free when the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000 and $3, 500 down
not refundable and yes the best part $40 t0 $60 a month for
20 years. Don't let Ozzie, Wendy and Edna get the poweplay on
you. save your $10, 000 and put them in the penalty box where
these scamers belong.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation and The Wizard of Ozzie Osbourne

Paradise Canyon Vacation has an MTS employee, from the Osbourne call centre
location in Winnipeg who calls himself ozzie, a tall skinny black anorexic
man who is making $20 an hour, and his girlfriend $35 an hour so he brags
at the Paradise canyon Vacation Call Centre, yet he comes to Paradise Canyon
for minimum wage to rip off people for $10, 000, this is evil greed $55 an
hour between them both and he needs to come rip off innocent people and lie
to them, we beleive that Noel is paying Ozzie under the table because on
several occasions we have seen Noel give Ozzie several $20, Ozzie claims
that its his pay and that he has no bus money to get home, really he's
making $20 an hour from MTS and his girlfriend $35 working with xrays and
Ozzie has no bus money to get home, maybe if Ozzie wouldn't buy so many
stolen nba and hockey jerseys from Rob, Ozzie may just have bus money to
get home. Rob has been selling stolen sports jerseys at the Paradise Canyon
Vacation Winnipeg all on company time and property call centre for years,
but since Ozzie has arrived business has been booming, and what does Noel
say about all this, when Noel was approached about Loren selling stolen
xbox, playstation pc games and blu ray movies, Noel the manager said it
was ok as long as employees get good prices. When Mts was called they
said that they didn't care what their employees did off company time,
and no supervisor even called back.Yet Mts wants us to give our personal
information to their employees buying stolen sports jerseys at the rate
of 1 per week. Now you know where your money goes when you pay your MTS
bill it goes to employees like Ozzie buying stolen sports jerseys so how
can you trust a company who hires shady MTS employees and people selling
stolen sports jerseys, and not to mention Loren selling his stolen Xbox,
play station pc games and blue ray movies so when you join Paradise Canyon
Vacation and pay $10, 000 membership fee, now you know where your money is
going, membership does have its privileges but only for employees of
Paradise Canyon Vacation call center.


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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Wendy the Horrible

Beware of Wendy the Horrible; she is Paradise Canyon Vacation's top
con artist and don’t care how many people she scams out of $10, 000,
regardless of age. All she is after is commission and inviting people
to the supposedly free presentations. She is constantly crying and
complaining when not enough people show up for the presentations so she
can make her commission. One night Wendy had a fight with the matriarch
of the Catherine clan, and verified her own lead, this lead to a fight
with Noel, Wendy was so horrible she told Noel the manager "you need me
more than I need you", not only is Wendy horrible but she is stingy and
all talk no action, next night she came back to work on her knees begging
Noel for her job back. She has a very horrible high pitched voice and when
she is working she is the only person you can hear in the room. Her voice
is so shrill that she can awaken the dead, . Be very aware when Wendy calls,
she is very cunning and manipulative and is very good at conning people to
come to the presentation. Paradise Canyon tele marketers don’t have a heart,
all they want is to con you so they can get their commission.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- the 3 faces of Eve now adding Brittney

Paradise Canyon Vacation is so shady that even their tele marketers
are liars and dishonest. If you get a call from a woman claiming to
be Jenna or Ella, her real name is Edna, all the same person using 3
names to try to fool people and rob them out of $10, 000, telling them
the presentation is free and will receive 2 free gifts, only 1 woman
in over a year said she received the free hotel stay, but had travel
to Florida, from central Canada to the other side of the USA, and had
to pay the airfare, you can’t pick and choose where to stay, a free hotel
stay may cost thousands of dollars in air fare, but Jenna, Ella or
Edna all the same person won’t tell you this, she is greedy and wants
you to go to the so called free presentation and be conned out of
$10, 000 she is a good con artist so be very aware. Update now it seems
that Edna aka Eve has added a new name she is now going by Britney
so now when Ella, Jenna or Britney calls you, it is really Edna.
A short Filipino lady trying to sound like a jersey shore poser,
everybody just calls her Snooki.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Hates children

Paradise Canyon Vacation hates when people attending the presentations
bring their children, yet they want to charge $10, 000 to $15, 000 for
a travel membership and a lot families travel with children, and they
don't even tell you its $10, 000 till the salesman arrives at your house.
Contradictory to what is said at the presentation. Paradise Canyon
vacation should at least make accommodations for the children, rent a
room for them supervised with an adult. They want the children’s moms
and dads to fork over $10, 000 but don't care about the children. Noel
the manager says that the children disrupt the presentations and the
salesmen can’t do their jobs. Do you really want to hand over $10, 000
to $15, 000 to travel company that hates children, $3, 500 down and $40
to $60 a month for the next 20 years. Do you really want to pass down
the membership fees down to your children when they grow up?

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- He Shoots! He Scams!!!

Paradise Canyon Vacation tele marketers love to call
Oops, scam people during hockey games. Because they
know that everyone will be at home watching the game.
Especially Wendy the Horrible who is very good at
scamming people and even called Noel the manager
to brag how she got 14 leads the night of a major
hockey game. Don't be fooled or scammed the
membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000. $3, 500 down not
refundable and $40 to $60 a month for $20 years, if
that is not timeshare then tell me what is. Tell those
tele marketers from Paradise Canyon you don't need
their 2 free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, and
that $1, 000 gift voucher. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation get the power play on you.
Put Noel and Dave his right hand man and who sometimes
he uses his left in the penalty box, remember all they
want is to lure you to the supposedly free presentation
to scam you out of $10, 000, don't sign any contracts
or let Paradise Canyon sales people into your home.

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33-Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- I need a hero

Don't we all wish that there was someone who could make
Paradise canyon vacation stop calling during supper so
we can enjoy our dinners. We need a hero especially during
Hockey Night In Canada when those pesky Paradise Canyon
Vacation tele marketers just won't stop dialing our numbers
on Sunday night. It's going to take a superman to fly down to
that Winnipeg call centre and disconnect those entire phone
lines.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Justice League

By now you probably realized that a group of men and women in
spandex tights are trying to take down the Cold Warriors a group
of ice themed super villains salesmen and tele marketers working
under Paradise Canyon Vacation, and in so doing making people
aware what is going inside Paradise Canyon Vacation with the
inside scoop, and what really happens at the presentations,
with testimonials from people who have been scammed. The
management of paradise Canyon Vacation don't want you the public
to know, that the membership fee is actually $10, 000 to $15, 000
with $3, 500 down non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20
years. They have tele markers call you and swear till they are blue
in the face that the presentation is free and that you can’t buy
nothing and leave your money at home. This is all a scam the same
scam used by tele solutions when selling magazines, they will call
and tell you 'I’m not calling to sell you anything" but then pass
you on to their supervisor who will try and scam you for over $1000
in magazines. "I’m not calling to sell you anything", that is
because someone else will. They won’t sell you nothing at the
presentation because Paradise Canyon Vacation sales people will come
to your home. Noel the manager even brags how good they are at
ripping people off, and claims that they can get 9/10 people to fork
over $10, 000. This is a scam, the tele markers should tell the people
"we are calling to sell you a $10, 000 membership", and not lie. As for
the free gifts, you don’t get those till after you filled out forms with
your information, and then wait 2-3 weeks in the mail, from what I
heard many people have told the tele marketers that they did not receive
the free gifts. Just like telesolutions who will not send you their $5
watch so described by JD the room manager, which they claim is a $650
diamond watch just so you will pay the $1, 000 magazine fee. The watch
arrives after 2 weeks because you only have 10 days to cancel your credit
card payment. Paradise canyon Vacation will also give you a $1, 000 gift
voucher towards the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership. There are too many
services all around for free and you can get the same prices and even lower
and better if you just shop around. You work too hard for your money to let
travel companies and magazine publishers rip you off.

Together we can make people more aware with knowledge and knowing is
the first part of winning any battle, we have compiled a list of
informative blogs from people who have been called, tele marketers and
members who have been scammed. Paradise canyon Vacation is fighting back
by sending out their dragons to take down our blogs, so please help
us and spread the word, they mostly call people in British Columbia,
Alberta. Manitoba and soon trying to Scam Ontario, calls are in the
evenings. For your entertainment you can check out these pictures
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/paradise-canyon.aspx

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Justice League Assemble

It seems that the Knights Of Paradise have joined forces with
the Justice League and not only do they have to deal with the
dragon Paradise Canyon Vacation, but now has a team they have to
contend with its cousin the 3 headed hydra scam.com. This 3 headed
hydra scam.com is working very closely with Paradise canyon vacation
to take down man, woman or child who dare to venture and post
anything negative about Paradise Canyon Vacation, all posts against
the dragon Paradise canyon Vacation have been removed, all but
one post slandering and hurting innocent employees with malicious
lies. Scam.com is supposed to protect people from scam corporations
out there who lie and rip people off, and not to slander innocent
employees. We need your help to take down the dragon and the hydra,
please if you see any scam links about Paradise Canyon Vacation send
the links to all your knights, fair maidens, friends and family,
together we can slay the dragon and his cousin the hydra and help
people so they don’t get scammed $10, 000 to $15, 000 for a travel
membership which is $3, 500 down non refundable, and imprisonment
in a dark dungeon for 20 years till the $40 to $60 a month has been
paid in full.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Justice League Reassemble

The knights of paradise along with the Justice League
shall not stop till they take down the walls of Rod
and Noel's tele marketing castle and break the
shackles and free all the enslaved tele marketers,
even the rich government social workers like Darcy
and Ms Soldier, they will not even leave behind shady
crooked MTS employees like Ozzie who has been buying
stolen sports jerseys from Rob, they will even break
the shackles and free Loren who has been selling
stolen Xbox, play station, pc games and blue ray
movies. But they will leave Noel in chains to rot in
the dungeon, for when he was approached about Loren
selling stolen Xbox games, he said it ok as long as
employees got prices, joining Noel to rot and
shackled will be his right hand man Dave who sometimes
uses his left, who is also Loren's biggest customer.
It seems that the dragon Paradise Canyon Vacation and
its cousin the 3 headed hydra scam.com have joined forces
with Cerebus the 3 headed guard dog of Hades aka Complaints
Board.com, which is now guarding the gates and not allowing
people to post anything negative about Paradise Canyon vacation.
All posts get a message saying that it will first be reviewed
by the administrator and then never gets posted, seldom do you
see the message "Your complaint has been added successfully posted!”
Please warn everyone you know, the membership fee is $10, 000
to $15, 000, with $3, 500 non refundable and $40 to $60 a month
for 20 years. They won't tell you this at the presentation,
only when the salesman arrives at your home with the lengthy
contract to sign. Help us in our struggle against the Dragon,
hydra and now Cerebus aka complaintsboard.com, For your
entertainment you can check out these pictures at
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/paradise-canyon.aspx

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- I would go nowhere near it

Aviator

Premium Member

Joined: Sep 2008
Location: CYXX
Posts: 5, 223

Check out the BBB, there are two complaints on there
about them. I would not join anything to pay for
something I can do myself.
My buddy registered himself as a travel agent so he
could guide two tours a year
(it is a free vacation for him).

Myself, I would go nowhere near it.

http://www.vacationtimesharerentals...n-Golf-Resort/

You may want to do a bit more research before shelling
out any cash.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam - Don't do it

Printer
Dumbo Wafflebutt


Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 1, 976

Don't do it. My father ended up being suckered into joining a
"holiday club" where he could enjoy countless benefits and
reduced price vacations all over the world.
The deals they were offering on their website were nothing
more than any average joe could get if they shopped around
and in the end all he got was a nice looking membership pack
which cost something like 5000 quid

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- I would say watch out

wannaskyline
New Member

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2

Actually. I have been doing some research of my own. I got this call from these
guys last week. Becasue I grew up around the Lethbridge I was quite curious when
they told me their name. I asked flat out if they were affiliated with the
Lethbridge Paradise Canyon and the lady on the phone stumbbled to give me an
answer. That is where I started being skeptical. I asked them where they are
from and the lady told me she was calling from Winnipeg Manitoba. But the area
code on the phone number was a 403(southern alberta area code)

The Paridise Canyon in Lethbridge is a VERY nice place. Yes they have had some
problems with buildings and even part of their course sliding into the Milk River.
But they try to have that fixed up asap and they are very professional. Yes they have
an RCI timeshare system and on their website they even sell vacations. They call there
travel section of the company Paradise Canyon Travel. NOT PARADISE CANYON VACATIONS.

I just got the confirmation email and it looks cheap. They have photo shopped Paradise
Canyons Logo onto it and it looks bad. If you go to the actual paradise canyon website
it looks nice. Do you actually think that a company with such a good reputation around
their community would make up such a crappy email when they have obviously spent good
money on a nice well done website. I dont think so.

This Paradise Vacations company, I would gather, is no better than one of those lame
Vacation Faxes that comes across the machine once a month.
I wouldnt do it... would you?

In closing haha. If you are ever in Lethbridge give Paradise canyon a try. especially
if you are a golfer. Very nice. The the housing area is clean and and cookie cutter
houses adds a nice feel for the community they are trying to uphold. But this other
"vacations company" I would say watch out. I am going to call the actual Paradise
Canyon tomorrow to find out more info and I will post another novel for you.
HAHA Cheers.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- giving them a miss

Zoe Bell
bored desk monkey


Joined: Apr 2007
Location: TORONTO- yay!!!
Posts: 2, 480


Well if that's the quality of their sales team I'll be giving them a miss

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Is Edna Noel's woman?????

Is Edna Noel's woman? That is the question all are asking
at the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center in Winnipeg. It
seems that Noel has been firing his own people Filipinos
even Brian who has been with Noel for 3 years. But Noel is
protecting Edna, giving Edna easy rebooks, and expo sheets.
Noel even has Catherine and especially Debbie the supervisors
making certain that Edna and her friend Laura are taken care
of, Edna doesn't have to tell callers that the supervisor will
call them back, she raises her hand and Debbie or Catherine
come running to close the lead and give the confirmation
number, while other tele marketers lose leads because people
don’t answer the return calls. Edna brags about her $1, 000
commission in less than 6 months, but she has Catherine and
Debbie wiping her ass and wiping Laura's ass to ensure sales
and not having missed calls. paradise Canyon Vacation does
a lot of favoritism while other call agents work 5 times harder.
It's unusual that Noel has fired just about all the female
Filipino tele marketers but Edna, If I was Noel's wife I
would be questioning Noel as to why Debbie and Catherine are
wiping Edna's ass guaranteeing her sales, and why Noel is firing
his own Filipino people.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- is it worth my while?

Sunshine582
New Member

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1


Hi,

Yes this is one of the first hits that comes up when you
google Paradise Canyon Vacations.

I was invited to one of these presentations and while I
could never afford to buy in (University student) I was
going to go for the 2 free nights in a hotel.

Did anyone else go to a presentation and actually get this
offering? Is it worth my precious homework time?

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Going For The Gifts

michk
New Member

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1

Hello

I actually received a call and my husband and I are
going to an informational seminar tomorrow night. I
have no intentions of purchasing anything at all. I
am only going to receive the 2 free hotel nights.
Did you receive this also? Anyhow good luck to you if
you decide to do it. We do travel, but there is no way
I am paying thousands of dollars to belong to a travel
"club". Take care and good luck!

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- free hotel nights?

jericho
Senior Member


Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
No, I didnt get the free hotel nights.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- It's a family affair

Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre is like one big happy family,
out to scam you out of $10, 000. The head of the Matriarch is Catharine
now the supervisor who calls and gives you your confirmation number,
will tell you to enjoy and leave your money at home. Then there is
Tyler, Noel's little pet, whom Noel protects by giving him the easy
expo sheets and rebooks, we always wondered why Tyler’s nose was
always so brown. Then there's Tyler's Auntie who is the coach of a
women’s basketball team who brings with her 1/2 her team along with
her anorexic daughter, how wonderful now you got a mother and son team
scamming people and a mother and daughter team scamming people as well,
then there’s Catherine's daughter Laura who's been away for a while,
and then this other girl that we all believe she is single because she
always wears dresses showing off her cleavage. Beware the Catherine
clan, especially her son Tyler with the brown nose, he is a very smooth
talker and wants to make his momma proud by trying to scam as many people
as he can out of $10, 000.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Just Say "NO"

Help us to help others so they don't get scammed by the professional
Tele-marketing scammers, if you been scammed into a presentation, or
had a bad experience with Paradise Canyon Vacations, please post a
reply and join our community, check your contract you may have 5
days for a refund like some other time share contract, don't sign
any contracts till you bring it first to your lawyer, is it worth
$10, 000 to $15, 000 per $50 month for 20 years on top of the $3, 500
initial start up cost for something you can do yourself for free,
shopping around is still free.

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Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Lavatory tips

Lavatory Tips From One Paradise Canyon Vacation employee Who Knows

Submitted by Tele marketer Laura on Tue, 12/12/2010 - 15:26 //




Manager's note: this was submitted yesterday as a comment on our
discussion about improving Paradise Canyon Vacation toilets.

Good advice below; worthy of being an article on its own.

I work as a tele marketer for a major time share company call center.

Here are a few tips for all you lavatory-phobes.

First of all: do not touch anything. As you enter the dreaded lav, grab a tissue and use it to lock the door,
to turn on the sink, and especially to open the door when you leave. Also, bring hand sanitizer with you.
Call centers may look clean, but think about the sheer amount of human traffic dropping germs everywhere.
I'm shocked to see how few tele marketers clean their hands. It's happened a few times that we had to put
little disposable handwipes in the lav when the sink was broken. And at the end of those shifts, it's
surprising how few of them have been used.

Second piece of advice: wear shoes! I am always shocked to see how many people go into the lav without shoes
or socks on. Don't they realize
that the liquid that permeates the floor is piss potpourri? So roll up your long pants before you enter!
The lavs rarely get disinfected.
Between most shifts, Noel is on a tight schedule and barely has the time to give the place more that a
quick once-over.

Next piece of advice is to remember that not all the lavs in a call center are the same. If you are a person with
a disability, or if you are obese, or if you need to help another worker to use the lav, most call centers have
special features to help you.
For instance, many have curtains that can be closed for privacy if ever the lav door must stay open to accommodate
more that one tele marketer. Some lavs even have removable walls. Also, there is usually at least one lav with a
baby change table.

(Just remember that it's covered with dangerous fecal bacteria -- line it with seat covers or something.)
And don't be embarrassed to

ask Dave or Noel for help -- we are used to such things.

My next piece of advice: time your washroom breaks carefully. The worst and busiest times to use the lav?
Right after the break is finished.

Another bad time, especially on a long call, is right before landing a lead, when we make the announcement
that Noel is about to throw 20

gallons on the floor to clean the bathrooms.

Everyone then goes to brush their teeth and curl their eyelashes. Another delicate time to go is when
we have our supervisors in the aisle.
You have to time it right or else you may get stuck at the back and have to wait till everyone else
finishes their service. If workers had to wait then run back and forth every time someone wanted
to go to or come back from the lav, we would never get anything done. So please, don't get nasty
if you do get stuck and end up shitting your drawers becuase all the bathrooms are full

My next suggestion is for those of you who may get stuck in a seat right next to a really smelly
lav: ask the the supervisors Dave, Catherine or Debbie for an unused pouch of coffee grounds to
hold close to your nose. It blocks almost any odor. I noticed that many Asian tele marketers like
Edna think ahead and bring those little facemasks that cover their nose and mouth, thus protecting
them from germs and odors. Pretty smart.

Finally, my best advice would be to not wait until the last minute to go -- even if that means
climbing over the big snoring co worker dude in the aisle [yes you Dave}.

It really sucks when your bladder is about to rupture and you got to keep dialing the phone for
the rest of the shift.


(By the way, that little dirty look from Noel means you CANNOT use the lav before break.)

Oh, and for those people who ask why the lavs are not scrubbed mid-shift, I have a pretty
good idea
theory: tele marketers are trained to fight fires, to treat any first-aid emergencies that may
occur while on the phone, to fight off terrorists, to scam thousands of dollars from callers in
minutes, to speak numerous languages, and to stay calm and smile during life or death disasters;
but we are NOT trained to clean dirty toilets! Would any other educated, rigorously-trained
career-people be expected to clean up crap during their fourteen-hour shift? I doubt it.

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