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31st of Mar, 2011 by Devin
GOODWIN SWIRL CORPORATION PTY LTD

This is John Muir's new scam company which changed its name on 18/01/2011 from DARK SWIRL PTY LTD.

John Muir lives on the Gold Coast at 1/1 Wave Street, Nobbys Beach, and has been involved in scams for a number of years, always using corporate structures where someone else was the Director.

His full name is Jonathan David Velo Muir; his date of birth 29/07/1969.

Mostly the scams relate to horse racing where it is arranged for clients to lose their trading funds over a period of time by deliberately providing bad selections. Then those funds are split up between the bookmaker and Muir. The license fees that have been paid to Muir's company, usually around $10,000, become worthless when the company is wound up and another started.

A variation on this scam is to place clients' trading funds with an offshore bookmaker where all the trading money is eventually stolen. Many hundreds of thousands of dollars are always involved. As well, the periodic theft of money from clients' accounts continues using the tactic of deliberately providing bad selections, and of course the license fees are lost in the sense that they are worthless when the company closes down.

Companies known to have been owned and controlled by Muir over the last 5 - 6 years include:

Forbes International Trading (an arbitrage company based in Surfers Paradise where all clients' trading funds were stolen. Licenses owned by clients were worthless when the company closed down).
Pro Arb Traders, a company associated with Forbes and involved in the theft of trading money from clients of Forbes.
LLoyds Property Options, a company which operated from the same offices as Forbes and stole money from clients who believed they were investing in property. The offices were on Floor 1, Chevron Renaissance, Surfers Paradise. One of Muirs associates was Alan Burlock, a person of interest to various Australian Authorities, about whom more can be found on Google (Google Alan Burlock, then look for heading "Anyone else lost money to LLoyds Property Options"?
Gateway Technology Solutions Pty Ltd, a horse racing company which operated from Level 17 (later Level 6) 50 Cavill Avenue Surfers Paradise. This scam company closed down after a year or so after systematically stealing clients' funds.
Commercial Securities Pty Ltd took up where Gateway left off - same staff, same premises, same horse racing scam.
Next horse racing company was Red Underline located at Level 1, 3-7 Makeri Street, Mermaid Beach. It has closed down and all its clients lost their money.
GOODWIN SWIRL is the latest horse racing scam company of Muir's, and is operating from the same premises as Red Underline.
Muir also owns Talk Up Communications which operates from the same premises as GOODWIN SWIRL. Talk Up was originally called Apple I Talk, then Go Talk. It is alleged that these companies, all owned by Muir, accepted money from clients to deliver certain services but failed to do so.
Muir boasts that he does not pay tax, has never paid tax, and has no intention of doing so in the future.

More information about Muir can be found on http://www.ripoffreport.com/business-consultants/red-underline/red-underline-sure-track-techn-83e52.htm

and http://www.ozripoff.com/report-view/991-anyone-else-lost-money-to-lloyds-property-options

Anyone considering 'investing' in horse racing should read warnings on the ASIC, Fair trading and ACCC websites, and anyone considering 'investing' with John Muir should look elsewhere.
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4762 days ago by Aware
well, thankyou for that
it sounded too good to be true, and now I know it is.

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